Berger Bullets

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by hammer mechanic, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. hammer mechanic

    hammer mechanic Member

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    I'm looking forward to use the berger bullets but i can't find any reloading data. looking for some help. 30.06 with the 185 hunting lvd, with the powder hod. 4831sc. anything will help. tried contacting them several times for load data but i yet to have hear anything back.
     
  2. linksmechanic

    linksmechanic Well-Known Member

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    Contact walt berger off of their web site. He will forward some data for you.
     

  3. 6.5x284tony

    6.5x284tony Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm, sure are a lot of mechanics around here???
     
  4. johnnyk

    johnnyk Well-Known Member

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    You can look at several reputable sources and come up with a load. I looked at Hodgdon's website and for the 180gn they list 54.0 - 60.0gns. For the 190gn they list 57.0 - 61.0gns (these average out to 55.5 - 60.5gns for the 185gn bullet).
    Richard Lee's "Modern Reloading" list 57.5 - 60.0gns for the 180gn bullet and 54.6 - 59.0gns for the 190gn bullet (average 56.0 - 59.5gns).
    Look at all the max listings you can find for the 180 and 190gn bullets and split the differences. This gives me a MAX load for the 185gn bullet. Then reduce that powder charge by 10% and you have your starting load. Work up in .5gn increments and look for pressure signs. At least that's how I do it. JohnnyK.
     
  5. Aldon

    Aldon Well-Known Member

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    PM me your email address and I can send you the pdf file that Berger sent me over the holidays. It has 40-06 as well as a few other calibers.

    For some reason I can not attach a file if I try and use the email link off this site.

    Aldon
     
  6. Aldon

    Aldon Well-Known Member

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    It does not paste well but here is the data on the 185:

    Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
    185 Grain AA XMR 435 48.0 2446 53.2 2724 98.7%
    185 Grain AA 3100 52.0 2365 57.8 2654 106.6%
    185 Grain H414 47.0 2382 52.7 2660 90.4%
    185 Grain IMR 4350 47.5 2463 52.6 2716 98.1%
    185 Grain NORMA 204 49.5 2424 53.3 2613 96.3%
    185 Grain Ramshot Hu 50.0 2463 55.7 2737 96.5%
    185 Grain VIHT N550 48.0 2475 53.1 2719 93.9%
    185 Grain WIN 760 48.5 2467 53.8 2728 94.2%
    185 Grain H4350 49.0 2407 54.7 2691 99.9%
    185 Grain IMR 4831 49.5 2453 54.9 2713 101.6%
    185 Grain IMR 4064 43.0 2435 48.0 2671 90.5%
    185 Grain VARGET 44.5 2506 47.0 2622 86.3%
    185 Grain IMR 4895 42.0 2433 46.7 2655 88.1%
    185 Grain RE-19 50.0 2417 55.5 2687 103.5%
     
  7. hammer mechanic

    hammer mechanic Member

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    Thanks for all the help. def going to try and load some tonight. I have also heard that these bullets like to be .015 off the lands. or even touching? i have always set any bullet usually .020. any other ideas on this?
     
  8. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    I have had real good luck seating them to magazine length, like real good luck. The 30-06 and 300WBY are to mag length my 270WSM is at .015 off the lands.
    If you haven't read the sticky on Bergers, do it is worth doing. I have been trying mag length or a few thou into the lands then I go at it like Berger suggest but maybe a little finer. I think the 185's will be awsome in the 30-06!
    http://www.longrangehunting.com/for...accuracy-berger-vld-bullets-your-rifle-40204/
     
  9. Boss Hoss

    Boss Hoss Well-Known Member

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    Wonder what changes we will see due to the new owners??? Will be interesting..
     
  10. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean Barnes Boss, either way someone would be stupid to mess up what they have going, Berger or Barnes both good bullets.
     
  11. lever-hed

    lever-hed Well-Known Member

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    you have chrony right?
     
  12. hammer mechanic

    hammer mechanic Member

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    Yea i do have a chrony. i make several batches and try and fine tune them.