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<blockquote data-quote="Korhil78" data-source="post: 705135" data-attributes="member: 34818"><p>I shot an antelope this past weekend with my 25-06 using the 115 gr Berger hunting VLD bullet. It was a 280 yd shot to the front of the chest. The antelope dropped immediately. When I opened him up, the lung on the left side was liquified and the one on the right was partially damaged. The bullet blew up in the chest cavity like it was supposed to. I have no complaints thus far on bergers. It did its job. I am also a Barnes fan (I know it's weird being a Barnes and Berger fan). Both have never failed me yet. </p><p></p><p>I believe that people (and I'm not saying anyone on this thread) forget the key component and that is shot placement. If you don't hit any of the vital organs or hit something that affects the function of those vital organs then the animal is going to run a long way no matter if there is a large exit hole or a pencil hole. One cannot depend on the bullet blowing up inside and having pieces of the bullet hitting the vitals if they are not hitting where they are aiming. The expansion of a bullet no matter how dramatic does not make up for a poorly placed shot. I have seen a 100 gr Barnes TSX go through a mule deer and drop him in his tracks. When I got to the deer, it had a much smaller exit hole than I would have expected. When I opened him up, the lungs had a small hole going through both of them but it was not obliterated. The mule deer still died right there. I have also seen where Barnes bullets have done pretty massive damage as well. </p><p></p><p>Any bullet has to be put in the right spot for it to do its job effectively. The minute one misses those vitals is the minute your odds of losing that animal goes wayyy up no matter what bullet you use. </p><p></p><p>I have a deer hunt this November and will report back what the 115 gr Berger hunting VLD does then too. I am predicting bang/flop if I do my part right.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Korhil78, post: 705135, member: 34818"] I shot an antelope this past weekend with my 25-06 using the 115 gr Berger hunting VLD bullet. It was a 280 yd shot to the front of the chest. The antelope dropped immediately. When I opened him up, the lung on the left side was liquified and the one on the right was partially damaged. The bullet blew up in the chest cavity like it was supposed to. I have no complaints thus far on bergers. It did its job. I am also a Barnes fan (I know it's weird being a Barnes and Berger fan). Both have never failed me yet. I believe that people (and I'm not saying anyone on this thread) forget the key component and that is shot placement. If you don't hit any of the vital organs or hit something that affects the function of those vital organs then the animal is going to run a long way no matter if there is a large exit hole or a pencil hole. One cannot depend on the bullet blowing up inside and having pieces of the bullet hitting the vitals if they are not hitting where they are aiming. The expansion of a bullet no matter how dramatic does not make up for a poorly placed shot. I have seen a 100 gr Barnes TSX go through a mule deer and drop him in his tracks. When I got to the deer, it had a much smaller exit hole than I would have expected. When I opened him up, the lungs had a small hole going through both of them but it was not obliterated. The mule deer still died right there. I have also seen where Barnes bullets have done pretty massive damage as well. Any bullet has to be put in the right spot for it to do its job effectively. The minute one misses those vitals is the minute your odds of losing that animal goes wayyy up no matter what bullet you use. I have a deer hunt this November and will report back what the 115 gr Berger hunting VLD does then too. I am predicting bang/flop if I do my part right. [/QUOTE]
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