Berger 308 Win bullet ?

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  1. Red hunter

    Red hunter Well-Known Member

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    Which weight and design for targets out to 1000? Of course finding some in these times may be a chore but what the heck gotta start somewhere. I was thinking the 168 or 175? will the 168 make it to 1200?
     
  2. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    If your using a .308, I highly suggest the Berger 168 hybrid. Works phenomenally in my short barrel. I use that bullet exclusively now. It has a higher BC than most of the 175 grain bullets. Worked good on my deer I shot this year also.
     

  3. trigger puller

    trigger puller Well-Known Member

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    I agree with liltank that is what i used to load but it got expensive, I switched to 175 SMKs and I have not loked back. They shoot good out to a grand but if you want to shoot past 1000 you might want to look @ a different caliber. I have 2 308 and I love them but I also have a 6.5-284 if I want to strech things out. I found that no matter what I did in a 5 shot group with the Bergers I would always have one flyer still shot under .5 all day long, can't go wrong with either the Hybrids or 175 SMK.
     
  4. Red hunter

    Red hunter Well-Known Member

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    I have a 300wm that will do the 1200. I want to try it with the 308win just cuz most of the guys there are doing it with 1/2 lb of powder out of a 50cal. maybe it's the idea of doing it the hard way.
    I guess I will see which ones I can get hold of. The 175 Berger has a pretty high bc also.
     
  5. BaconFat

    BaconFat Active Member

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    I just read an article about shooting .308 with 168gr bullets at long range. What the writer found in their case was the 168 bullet became subsonic and was key holing the target. You didn't mention the twist rate of your rifle, but it would help if it's 1:10 to shoot 1k or longer. I'd also look at bullets in the 185 to 210gr to get you where you want to be.

    Good luck with this and let us know how it turned out. gun)
     
  6. liltank

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    What the writer is referring too is the 168 SMK and bullets of similar design. They are built with a Tangent ogive which struggles to maintain stability through the transonic period. The VLD and Hybrid style bullets can maintain stability through the transonic transission keeping them accurate to a better degree. They use a Secant ogive, and the Hybrid is a combination of the two ogives. I didn't have any problem with the Hybrid and my cousin did quite well with the 168 A-max.
     
  7. Red hunter

    Red hunter Well-Known Member

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    I have a 26 inch 10 twist barrel. It has done the Sierra 155 fine to 750. But they wont go to 1k and I would like to see how well it will do at 1k
     
  8. Nomad

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    Have heard good things about Berger bullets in a 308 so far have hard trouble getting them to group. The rifle shoots Sierra and Nosler with out any problems found the 175gr at 2650 does a great job to 1000 yards and past.
     
  9. Canadian Bushman

    Canadian Bushman Well-Known Member

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    With a 1:10 twist i would shoot the berger 190 or 215 weights. The high bc will pay off divedends. They're flight time is significantly shorter at 1k+
     
  10. Lone Hunter

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    Contact Eric Sticker at Berger Bullets and he will give you seating depths to try out and find which will shoot best in your rifle. You will load into the lands,.010 off and so on He said if you do this you will find these bullets shoot great and they do.
     
  11. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    The hybrid is much less sensitive to seating depth. I would suggest that route instead of the normal VLD.
     
  12. DaleJ

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    The 155 gr "palma" style bullets will get to 1000 fairly easy. They will get out to a mile if you have enough MOA in bases, rings, and scope. Recovered a couple bullets that made the trip and it was obvious they hit steel plate nose first.
     
  13. joe0121

    joe0121 Well-Known Member

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    Some people have good luck with 208 GR Amax or 210 Berger VLD and Varget. If you can get it to 2500 FPS that's supersonic to about 1200 yards at sea level with very little wind drift.
     
  14. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    Just loaded up some 210 Berger VLD Hunting Match bullets in some old Hornady Match brass (brass I use for load development, since it's sitting around). I used 39.1gr of Varget. And seated it to 3.060" C.O.L. I will probably go to the range tomorrow to test, if it is not raining.

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    Here it is next to a regular .308 with a SAMMI length of 2.810". The black nickle brass one is loaded with a 175gr Nosler Custom Competition, backed with 44.0gr of Varget.

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