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Berger 168 VLD results on an Elk
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<blockquote data-quote="lever action lady" data-source="post: 1282513" data-attributes="member: 100386"><p>This may be a little late to address this on the forum but here is my hand load data I'm used out of my gun:</p><p></p><p>I was pushing a .308 210 Berger VLD right in the 2750 fps window where my rifle seemed to really stack them tight... I wasn't able to get that good of down range forgiveness and performance from any other bullet so I used it on a few elk hunts and mule deer hunts in Utah.</p><p></p><p>Elk hunt 1: A cow elk shot at 553 yards just behind the shoulder. Great results and extensive damage with only a tiny piece of bullet exiting the animal. Far shoulder was half destroyed from all the fragments and blood with hardly any usable meat but no problem finding the cow...she ran 20 yards and fell down.</p><p></p><p>Elk hunt 2: Another cow elk shot at around 350 yards. She took 5 shots and I couldn't tell I was hitting her...When she dropped and we came up to finish her off all 5 shots were placed in a clay pigeon sized group right behind the shoulder while she was hauling... all went through without hitting bone and none of the bullets expanded at all. Maybe had a bad box of ammo...but really surprised because of the variance from the hunt before.</p><p></p><p>Deer hunt 1: My younger brother borrowed my 300 win mag for a mule deer hunt and shot a little buck...he put down a neck shot and it was around 80 yards out. The neck was so destroyed that you could put one of those smaller basketballs half way through the neck and had destroyed half the neck meat. So I was guessing at close ranges it expands quite quickly with all the energy.</p><p></p><p>My Bull Elk Hunt: In Utah it takes a while to draw a bull tag but I did and got a nice bull in my scope. I shot him at 572 yards moving through the aspens in the shoulder bone and he was clearly hit...later that afternoon we caught back up with him...the bullet shattered before his vitals on that far shot but he came home with us with a 150 yard spine shot where it wouldn't have mattered the bullet composition at all. I have very mixed feelings...wish they would have the shrapnel affect and still have heavy core to continue penetrating at closer distances than 400 yards because the bullets seem to break up too quickly at closer ranges...also too much inconsistencies with expansions and too much dependencies on bone connection at further ranges.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lever action lady, post: 1282513, member: 100386"] This may be a little late to address this on the forum but here is my hand load data I'm used out of my gun: I was pushing a .308 210 Berger VLD right in the 2750 fps window where my rifle seemed to really stack them tight... I wasn't able to get that good of down range forgiveness and performance from any other bullet so I used it on a few elk hunts and mule deer hunts in Utah. Elk hunt 1: A cow elk shot at 553 yards just behind the shoulder. Great results and extensive damage with only a tiny piece of bullet exiting the animal. Far shoulder was half destroyed from all the fragments and blood with hardly any usable meat but no problem finding the cow...she ran 20 yards and fell down. Elk hunt 2: Another cow elk shot at around 350 yards. She took 5 shots and I couldn't tell I was hitting her...When she dropped and we came up to finish her off all 5 shots were placed in a clay pigeon sized group right behind the shoulder while she was hauling... all went through without hitting bone and none of the bullets expanded at all. Maybe had a bad box of ammo...but really surprised because of the variance from the hunt before. Deer hunt 1: My younger brother borrowed my 300 win mag for a mule deer hunt and shot a little buck...he put down a neck shot and it was around 80 yards out. The neck was so destroyed that you could put one of those smaller basketballs half way through the neck and had destroyed half the neck meat. So I was guessing at close ranges it expands quite quickly with all the energy. My Bull Elk Hunt: In Utah it takes a while to draw a bull tag but I did and got a nice bull in my scope. I shot him at 572 yards moving through the aspens in the shoulder bone and he was clearly hit...later that afternoon we caught back up with him...the bullet shattered before his vitals on that far shot but he came home with us with a 150 yard spine shot where it wouldn't have mattered the bullet composition at all. I have very mixed feelings...wish they would have the shrapnel affect and still have heavy core to continue penetrating at closer distances than 400 yards because the bullets seem to break up too quickly at closer ranges...also too much inconsistencies with expansions and too much dependencies on bone connection at further ranges. [/QUOTE]
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