Bear 2...Dave 0

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by davewilson, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. davewilson

    davewilson Well-Known Member

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    I had 2 chances/shots at bear this season and didn't score on either. the first was moving along left to right and was only 450 when i first saw it. had a good position on the ground and things were good for a shot but it just wouldn't stop in the open. every time it was behind trees. then it worked into a hollow where i couldn't see it much at all, but came out still moving side hill at about 520. mind you i'm doing it all, ranging, dialing, adjusting the gun. when you long range hunt by yourself, you're busier than a one armed paper hanger with the crabs! i keep pivoting to my right as it just kept moving along, i even yelled at the top of my lungs to try and stop it for a shot, but it just kept going. finally i have the gun pointed in some branches at the edge of my opening but i had to keep going like they weren't there. finally it stopped and i had my chance. about 575-580, and i let it fly. of course the only thing that flew was one of the branches 10 feet in front of me. mind you there weren't many limbs there at all and they were very small but i guess Murphy was helping me as i managed to hit one.
    The second opportunity came last Friday. i'm sitting there glassing the mountain when i hear a deer snort. when it snorted the second time, i realized it was on my mountain and down to the right where i could see a little of the ridge adjacent to my location. i grabed the ole trusty "06" and moved to the other side of my opening where i could see down there and low and behold a bear is in plain view. well they seem like they are in plain view, they sure stick out in the woods.i couldn't get on the ground because i couldn't see the bear from that angle, so i leaned along a tree and managed to get stable enough for a shot. the bear cooperated and stopped where i could see it at about 180 yards,with nothing to rest on i had to take the shot which looked good when the gun went off. i was very confident i nailed it, but when it didn't move and then started walking back towards me as if nothing happened. well i'm sure you know that rapidly sinking feeling when the animals feet are still pointing down instead of up! then it shuffled off out of sight. i went down and looked, even found the bullet impact. i'm pretty sure i went over it, not positive as i couldn't make out exactly where it was at the shot, and it kindof did a 180 right there before it came back towards me.when i shot i didn't notice anything between but when looking back up hill, there were small limbs there that could have deflected my 178 a-max. of course ones ego tends to blame it on something other than us making a good shot, but in all honesty it looked good when it broke.
    Next year i have someone that wants to go along and he has much better equipment than i, namely a 338Chey-tac that's a tac driver. i won't mention any names but he supplies people on here with laminated/custom stocks. i need to get rid of some of these bears, i hunted 6 days and saw bears on 4 of them. the deer population is really low. i only saw 9 deer in those 6 days and 7 were on the last day. one was a nice buck which i didn't get a shot at and maybe i'll see him next year.
    Wish i had a successful story for ya, but it wasn't the case. thought i'd eat some crow and tell about my "misses" in all honesty it was a great season, i love sitting on that hill side and just watching.i basically didn't hunt last year in an attempt to save my marriage, i packed all my gun stuff away and didn't shoot or hunt. of course it didn't help and my marriage is over but i appreciate getting out there even more.
     
  2. RMinMT

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    Dave thanks for sharing.

    Hope your next season goes better.
     

  3. MT4XFore

    MT4XFore Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to hear about the marriage Dave. Even having the opportunity at two bears in your neck of the woods makes for a semi-successful year.
    God Bless
    Jim
     
  4. royinidaho

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    Dave,

    Glad you posted your experience even though it wasn't the best. Hang in there.

    What happened to your bull-pup? Trusty '06.......I don't understand.
     
  5. davewilson

    davewilson Well-Known Member

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    Roy, i was shooting the bullpup with the intent of taking it and just wasn't getting very good results. when i had the second shell not fire, i decided to just go with the ole trusty 06 because most of my shooting would be under 700 yards. i had 2 shells where the primer went off but didn't ignite the powder. i had an 8 lb jug of H1000 that sat around at my mothers, where i put all my gun stuff last year. i'm assuming the powder isn't good as i was getting spreads over 60 and it was usually under 20 in the past.
     
  6. Buffalobob

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    You should add running a video camera to your jobs. That's why I'm scoreless at the moment. The buck ran off chasing the doe while I was focusing the camera.

    PS -- what primers were you using. There was a thread last spring (I believe) about one brand of primers having really bad ignition- several people had the same kind of problem you describe. It wasn't Federal but I cannot remember the brand at the moment.
     
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  7. Joel Russo

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    I was waiting by the phone, but it never rang!

    Sign me, and my gear, up for next year...
     
  8. royinidaho

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    I had that happen a couple of years ago after a long hike/stalk on an elk. Every thing was perfect and the result of the trigger brake was nothing but a click.:rolleyes: Reticle never moved from the POI. By the time I reloaded for the second attempt the wind went from near zero to 30+. Bullet did what it was supposed to, under that uncorrect for condition. Hit 18" to the right @ 430. I had to blow the top of his head off or miss cleanly. It worked out pretty well.:rolleyes:

    Pulled the bullet the correct amount of the right kind of powder came out.

    The primer was a federal 215.

    My trouble shooting indicated that I had used a small rifle primer push in the Lee tool instead of a large primer push rod.

    I did the same thing with some 300 Wby loads for a friend. It took him 7 tries to get his trophy antelope. I quit reloading for others about that time.
     
  9. davewilson

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    BB, i was using the 215GM primers. both shells had the bottom 1/3 of the powder blackened and clumped together. the rest of the powder looked fine. i'm blaming it on the powder, it sat for more than a year, but don't know if the primer might not be the culpert. i can't imagine running a camera yet. i've done that from a treestand with whitetails but with this long range and the animals moving, it would be impossible. i remember watching guys long range hunt some 35 years ago and saying if the animals are feeding, we're in business. if they're moving through, it's very difficult. i would agree with that statement.

    Joel, i knew you'd chime in here with "i was waiting by the phone". was figuring on heading upstate,but with the rain and my foot acting up, just went back down to WV. a day before decision. it is a whole 150 yard hike from the truck...you sure that's not too far? besides, i saw so many bears the first week, i figured if you were there, we wouldn't see any and i'd have to put up with that for lord knows how long!

    Roy, never reload for anyone else.
     
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  10. elkaholic

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    Dave.....Good post. We learn more from failures than successes! I can really relate to your comment about "long range hunting alone". It is REALLY difficult to do everything by yourself and still be able to concentrate and get off a good shot. When filming, I learned that three people are needed to do a good job. I missed an antelope for that very reason when it should have been easy.......Rich
     
  11. jmden

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    Thanks for sharing, Dave. Hope next year goes better for you! Jon