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The Basics, Starting Out
Base and Ring Recommendation for Win M70
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<blockquote data-quote="Outlaw6.0" data-source="post: 682408" data-attributes="member: 23486"><p>I just received my 2nd custom made Murphy 20moa pic rail this week. Not only is Cameron a great guy to deal with, the custom rails were the same price as the "off the shelf" rails. Quick shipping, perfect fit & VERY well made, I plan to order a 3rd today. I have Badger, Leupold & NightForce bases, I think I'm going Murphy from here on out.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I am weening (sp) my rifles from the Standard Leupold Bases. That is all I had for years & they fit "that" bill. The down sides being this (at least for me): No MOA, I shoot long range WAY more than I ever used to & I need the extra adjustment. The windage adjustable rear ring mount is a weak link, I've seen more than one shear the lugs off the ring. They weren't mine & I don't know why it happened, all I observed was the after effect. I can tell you that, they belonged to individuals whom I feel are competent & don't treat their rifles like crap. 3rd, you can't just swap out a scope like you can with a pic rail setup. Having better than a dozen highend rifles, I find more & more need to swap some of my high end scopes from rifle to rifle. With a Picatinny rail, this job is VERY easy, not so much with the leupy Standard setup. 4th, holding power- With a picatinny rail, I have the ability to choose my rings in direct relation to the application of my setup. Most of my rings have twice the surface area of the Standard Leupy setup, providing more grip, more rigidity & more holding power. The reason the larger rings are more important is, most of the Long Range shooters/hunters have BIG robust optics (NightForce, IOR Valdada etc) with tube diameters from 30mm to 34mm to even 35mm & typical objective lenses between 50mm & 60mm. This translates into optics weighing FAR more than the average 1" tubed 3-9. The extra strength isn't JUST about bragging rights <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />, it's about holding $2k+ optics in place on a $3k- $5k rifle to obtain the very best performance & reliability possible.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Here is an example of my Leupold MK4- M5A 34mm tubed 6.5-20 Next to a Nikon Monarch 6.5-20 with a 1" tube to provide better visualization of the immense size/weight difference of the optics common to our application.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Outlaw6.0, post: 682408, member: 23486"] I just received my 2nd custom made Murphy 20moa pic rail this week. Not only is Cameron a great guy to deal with, the custom rails were the same price as the "off the shelf" rails. Quick shipping, perfect fit & VERY well made, I plan to order a 3rd today. I have Badger, Leupold & NightForce bases, I think I'm going Murphy from here on out. I am weening (sp) my rifles from the Standard Leupold Bases. That is all I had for years & they fit "that" bill. The down sides being this (at least for me): No MOA, I shoot long range WAY more than I ever used to & I need the extra adjustment. The windage adjustable rear ring mount is a weak link, I've seen more than one shear the lugs off the ring. They weren't mine & I don't know why it happened, all I observed was the after effect. I can tell you that, they belonged to individuals whom I feel are competent & don't treat their rifles like crap. 3rd, you can't just swap out a scope like you can with a pic rail setup. Having better than a dozen highend rifles, I find more & more need to swap some of my high end scopes from rifle to rifle. With a Picatinny rail, this job is VERY easy, not so much with the leupy Standard setup. 4th, holding power- With a picatinny rail, I have the ability to choose my rings in direct relation to the application of my setup. Most of my rings have twice the surface area of the Standard Leupy setup, providing more grip, more rigidity & more holding power. The reason the larger rings are more important is, most of the Long Range shooters/hunters have BIG robust optics (NightForce, IOR Valdada etc) with tube diameters from 30mm to 34mm to even 35mm & typical objective lenses between 50mm & 60mm. This translates into optics weighing FAR more than the average 1" tubed 3-9. The extra strength isn't JUST about bragging rights :D, it's about holding $2k+ optics in place on a $3k- $5k rifle to obtain the very best performance & reliability possible. Here is an example of my Leupold MK4- M5A 34mm tubed 6.5-20 Next to a Nikon Monarch 6.5-20 with a 1" tube to provide better visualization of the immense size/weight difference of the optics common to our application. [/QUOTE]
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