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Barrels, which manufacturer??
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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 1345915" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>The twist rate is built into the button but when it's pushed or pulled there is a lot of resistance obviously and as that resistance changes in the barrel the twist rate changes. Some will rotate the blank while buttoning to assist the button, others like X-Caliber use a hydraulic cylinder from the farm supply and just crash it through and hope for the best and they are the worst barrels I've seen for hitting actual twist rate.</p><p></p><p>This is how my day went with the last cheap barrels I tried to use, unpackage barrel, borescope, see poor lapping, which I can do if needed. Check with a reamer bushing and find my largest size falls half way through the barrel then sticks which means it's variable size bore, slug the bore and find it's a ***, call the company and get the run around and find out the twist rate is between the two buttons they have, finally get a replacement sent, call customer, package back up and send barrel back. Get new blank, repeat the entire process with the same results, call a barrel manufacture and get a barrel that is only $80 more then ship second blank back. This process and time means <strong>I</strong> paid money to chamber and fit a barrel for a customer, I like the guys I do work for so I don't charge them for all this but for me it's frustrating cause I'm trying to be in business not QC'ing someone else's!!</p><p>In contrast a Rock, Kreiger or Bartlein I unpackage the barrel and verify info on the blank is correct to the order, push a cleaning rod through it and load it in a lathe and dial it in, odds are good the reamer bushing is already the right one on the reamer so I don't have to surf my whole set, fit, chamber flip and crown and make a little money to try to afford more tooling or upgrade a machine.</p><p>Getting lucky with a barrel as a guy just buying one is awesome, you win, being a smith and get unlucky with one and your out money, I had one and it cost me $950 to get the customer back to where it should have been, that means I did 3 chamber jobs just to pay for that one $200 barrel that <strong>I</strong> stood behind! Hopefully that gives some insight into why some of us will use only certain barrels, when your ready to hang your lively hood, reputation and time on a barrel saving $100 on a chance doesn't even land on my radar!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 1345915, member: 13632"] The twist rate is built into the button but when it's pushed or pulled there is a lot of resistance obviously and as that resistance changes in the barrel the twist rate changes. Some will rotate the blank while buttoning to assist the button, others like X-Caliber use a hydraulic cylinder from the farm supply and just crash it through and hope for the best and they are the worst barrels I've seen for hitting actual twist rate. This is how my day went with the last cheap barrels I tried to use, unpackage barrel, borescope, see poor lapping, which I can do if needed. Check with a reamer bushing and find my largest size falls half way through the barrel then sticks which means it's variable size bore, slug the bore and find it's a ***, call the company and get the run around and find out the twist rate is between the two buttons they have, finally get a replacement sent, call customer, package back up and send barrel back. Get new blank, repeat the entire process with the same results, call a barrel manufacture and get a barrel that is only $80 more then ship second blank back. This process and time means [B]I[/B] paid money to chamber and fit a barrel for a customer, I like the guys I do work for so I don't charge them for all this but for me it's frustrating cause I'm trying to be in business not QC'ing someone else's!! In contrast a Rock, Kreiger or Bartlein I unpackage the barrel and verify info on the blank is correct to the order, push a cleaning rod through it and load it in a lathe and dial it in, odds are good the reamer bushing is already the right one on the reamer so I don't have to surf my whole set, fit, chamber flip and crown and make a little money to try to afford more tooling or upgrade a machine. Getting lucky with a barrel as a guy just buying one is awesome, you win, being a smith and get unlucky with one and your out money, I had one and it cost me $950 to get the customer back to where it should have been, that means I did 3 chamber jobs just to pay for that one $200 barrel that [B]I[/B] stood behind! Hopefully that gives some insight into why some of us will use only certain barrels, when your ready to hang your lively hood, reputation and time on a barrel saving $100 on a chance doesn't even land on my radar!! [/QUOTE]
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