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<blockquote data-quote="Eric Stecker" data-source="post: 312924" data-attributes="member: 8908"><p>Bill (bwaites),</p><p> </p><p>I want to address a few items you mentioned. Some is a bit off topic but important.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Visit our website to see that we are making an 85 gr FB, 100 gr BT and 120 gr BT in the 6.5mm. The 100 gr and 120 gr are shooting well in the Grendel. This is a relatively recent development but they are available.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Send an email to Walt Berger at <a href="mailto:bergerltd@aol.com">bergerltd@aol.com</a> asking him for this data as he may have it now. I am not certain of this but if he can get this for you he will. Walt has been working on our first loading manual for several years and we expect it to be released in 2010. </p><p> </p><p>I know that we have been saying "the manual is coming" for years but I can relay that at this point we have a known amount of work to be done and it should not take more than 9-12 months. Much of the early delay in publishing our loading manual was sorting out how we were going to test all the data. This has been resolved.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I have the same desire. I met with all the major bullet makers at the SHOT Show to discuss our working together on projects to enhance the shooting sports. A version of this is one of the projects. Something like this will take a lot of resources to produce properly. I am willing to do this on our own but it will take much longer. One way or another a version of this will become real.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Bryan Litz' book lists the results of his testing the BC of I believe over 170 long range bullets of every major brand. All this information can be found in his book along with a wealth of information on long range shooting. Every long range shooter should have a copy.</p><p> </p><p>I know that when I say "Berger is committed to enhancing the shooting experience" it sounds like marketing hype. The fact is that we are actually doing real work to enhance the shooting experience. We are actively pursuing several projects that will enhance the shooting experience. Bryan's book is a recent example of a completed project. </p><p> </p><p>Other projects are ongoing and many include all major brands not just Berger. I believe very strongly that if the shooting experience is enjoyable more people will shoot. This not only strengthens our freedom to own and use firearms but it also increases the size of the market for all manufacturers.</p><p> </p><p>As I've said before I believe the firearms industry is uniquely required to band together if we are to survive. If the shooting sports weaken to the point of collapse we have so much more to lose than our jobs.</p><p> </p><p>Regards,</p><p>Eric</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eric Stecker, post: 312924, member: 8908"] Bill (bwaites), I want to address a few items you mentioned. Some is a bit off topic but important. Visit our website to see that we are making an 85 gr FB, 100 gr BT and 120 gr BT in the 6.5mm. The 100 gr and 120 gr are shooting well in the Grendel. This is a relatively recent development but they are available. Send an email to Walt Berger at [EMAIL="bergerltd@aol.com"]bergerltd@aol.com[/EMAIL] asking him for this data as he may have it now. I am not certain of this but if he can get this for you he will. Walt has been working on our first loading manual for several years and we expect it to be released in 2010. I know that we have been saying "the manual is coming" for years but I can relay that at this point we have a known amount of work to be done and it should not take more than 9-12 months. Much of the early delay in publishing our loading manual was sorting out how we were going to test all the data. This has been resolved. I have the same desire. I met with all the major bullet makers at the SHOT Show to discuss our working together on projects to enhance the shooting sports. A version of this is one of the projects. Something like this will take a lot of resources to produce properly. I am willing to do this on our own but it will take much longer. One way or another a version of this will become real. Bryan Litz' book lists the results of his testing the BC of I believe over 170 long range bullets of every major brand. All this information can be found in his book along with a wealth of information on long range shooting. Every long range shooter should have a copy. I know that when I say "Berger is committed to enhancing the shooting experience" it sounds like marketing hype. The fact is that we are actually doing real work to enhance the shooting experience. We are actively pursuing several projects that will enhance the shooting experience. Bryan's book is a recent example of a completed project. Other projects are ongoing and many include all major brands not just Berger. I believe very strongly that if the shooting experience is enjoyable more people will shoot. This not only strengthens our freedom to own and use firearms but it also increases the size of the market for all manufacturers. As I've said before I believe the firearms industry is uniquely required to band together if we are to survive. If the shooting sports weaken to the point of collapse we have so much more to lose than our jobs. Regards, Eric [/QUOTE]
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