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<blockquote data-quote="Darryl Cassel" data-source="post: 24794" data-attributes="member: 34"><p>S1</p><p></p><p>I never said that the spotter shot method was 100% everytime. I do however, believe it is more reliable then your way at really xtreme range and I'm not talking about inside of 1000 yds. </p><p>That statement does not make me right and you wrong and vise-versa. </p><p></p><p>There is the possibility of a miss or wounding in ANY system, but the possibilty is cut down quite a bit using the spotter system at extreme range. I don't mean just 1000 yds. I am talking of ranges past 1000 and on out to 2000 or a bit further. I have had success past 2000 yds and want to take it to 3000 since my buddie has done it to 2890 yds. He used the spotter system.</p><p></p><p>As you said to Boyd, I/we don't have to run up a mountain and be out of breath and try to make a shot either. I won't put myself in that position because I don't have to. </p><p>Some do however if in the military and I fully understand that mentality. </p><p></p><p>It seems in your way, your taking a lot for granted by "looking" at wind conditons if you don't have wind indicators the entire length of the range your shooting. This takes Years to master by the BEST. If you can do this on a consistant basis, then you are **** good.</p><p></p><p>You MUST admit, a spotter shot will "help" eleminate some of the problems encountered by the wind and other factors too, if a person is trying to use the one shot method in excess of 1000, 1250, 1500 and out to 2000 yards. If you don't then we should not be talking about this subject to each other at all.</p><p></p><p>I was kiding around about the Grandson thing and you semed to take that wrong? It was all in fun.</p><p></p><p>Yes, the wind can change very rapidly however, I feel the spotter system is "one" of the best, if not "the" best way, to track a bullet to the target by use of hunting friend using a set of Bigeyes.</p><p></p><p>We (you and I) are both after the same result. That is to get the bullet from Point A to point B at extreme range and as accurate as possible. I will always feel that the spotter shot first for the "Sportsman" is the best way to go. Not for the Military sniper though.</p><p>In your line of work, I see your point as per the 1 shot senerio.</p><p></p><p>We can just agree to disagree and go about our shooting procedures we have established over the years. It seems it has been successful for both.</p><p></p><p>If you or anyone can show us a better way then has been successful for "me" and my LR hunting and shooting friends in the past, I'm/we are all ears.</p><p>I expect the same consideration from you also. </p><p></p><p>No shooting system is 100% everytime.</p><p>Just too many obsticles past 1000 yds </p><p></p><p>Have a good one <img src="http://images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p>DC</p><p></p><p>PS---My Grandson wants to go shooting and needs a spotter, bye. <img src="http://images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <img src="http://images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darryl Cassel, post: 24794, member: 34"] S1 I never said that the spotter shot method was 100% everytime. I do however, believe it is more reliable then your way at really xtreme range and I'm not talking about inside of 1000 yds. That statement does not make me right and you wrong and vise-versa. There is the possibility of a miss or wounding in ANY system, but the possibilty is cut down quite a bit using the spotter system at extreme range. I don't mean just 1000 yds. I am talking of ranges past 1000 and on out to 2000 or a bit further. I have had success past 2000 yds and want to take it to 3000 since my buddie has done it to 2890 yds. He used the spotter system. As you said to Boyd, I/we don't have to run up a mountain and be out of breath and try to make a shot either. I won't put myself in that position because I don't have to. Some do however if in the military and I fully understand that mentality. It seems in your way, your taking a lot for granted by "looking" at wind conditons if you don't have wind indicators the entire length of the range your shooting. This takes Years to master by the BEST. If you can do this on a consistant basis, then you are **** good. You MUST admit, a spotter shot will "help" eleminate some of the problems encountered by the wind and other factors too, if a person is trying to use the one shot method in excess of 1000, 1250, 1500 and out to 2000 yards. If you don't then we should not be talking about this subject to each other at all. I was kiding around about the Grandson thing and you semed to take that wrong? It was all in fun. Yes, the wind can change very rapidly however, I feel the spotter system is "one" of the best, if not "the" best way, to track a bullet to the target by use of hunting friend using a set of Bigeyes. We (you and I) are both after the same result. That is to get the bullet from Point A to point B at extreme range and as accurate as possible. I will always feel that the spotter shot first for the "Sportsman" is the best way to go. Not for the Military sniper though. In your line of work, I see your point as per the 1 shot senerio. We can just agree to disagree and go about our shooting procedures we have established over the years. It seems it has been successful for both. If you or anyone can show us a better way then has been successful for "me" and my LR hunting and shooting friends in the past, I'm/we are all ears. I expect the same consideration from you also. No shooting system is 100% everytime. Just too many obsticles past 1000 yds Have a good one [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] DC PS---My Grandson wants to go shooting and needs a spotter, bye. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]
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