goodgrouper
Well-Known Member
Just thought I would throw this out there so no one else gets skrewed.
My buddy just returned home from a griz/dall sheep hunt in Alaska and was almost in tears. Seems his so called "guide" and "outfitter" was nothing more than a cheat and a crook. His name is Bill Burwell and he runs Ram Creek Outfitters. To make a long story short--DON"T BOOK A HUNT WITH THIS THIEF!!
HE told my buddy that there were 40" rams everywhere and that they had a 95% success rate on sheep and grizzlys. Well, after 10 days up there, they saw only one double broomed ram that was just barely legal and it was an ugly sheep with only 28" long curls. They saw 3 black bears which means there were no grizz in the whole area and all he saw was 1 four month old track!
He was also told that they could hunt several large areas including a indian res and when they got there the "guide" said that they had to stay in two small canyons only because he lost his license for guiding on the res.
My buddy was also told that the hunt would not be a very strenuous hunt so that my buddie's dad could also go and get a ram without having a heart attack (he is old and has bad knees) and when they got there they learned that it would be a minimum of 3000 foot ascent every day just to get to a spot to look for rams.
My buddy brought his 20-60x80mm Docter binos that he uses for guiding Desert bighorn hunters here in Utah and he was told to leave them in the plane because they were to heavy for the horses to pack in. Oh, but did I mention that they had plenty of room to pack in several cases of BEER instead!! What kind of sheep guide leaves great optics home and brings nothing but beer?!!?
The "guide" also said that my buddies 7mm mag would be plenty for grizz because he carried a 500 S&W as backup. LIE. He was given one the day before the hunt by another guide and he had no idea how to shoot it or even how to load it!!
The "guide" also says on his website that he "guides" every hunter personally for the entire hunt and has 27 years of experience. Well in reality, he only "guided" for a couple of the days and left the rest up to a 19 year old kid with one year experience who he called, "an excellent guide".
ANyhow, the whole hunt was $7000 dollars for both my buddy and his dad and it was paid upfront. Needless to say, that was a big $14,000 nightmare!
So if you know anyone who is booking a hunt with this Bill Burwell from Ram Creek Outfitters, steer them the other direction as fast as you can!
The whole thing is being reported to the Alakan guiding board, the Better Business Bureau, and the Governor of Alaska as I type this. IT will also be made known at the next UFNAWS meeting and the National FNAWS meeting this next year. With any luck, he will be able to get his money back and put this dipstick out of business so no one else gets taken for their hard earned cash.
My buddy just returned home from a griz/dall sheep hunt in Alaska and was almost in tears. Seems his so called "guide" and "outfitter" was nothing more than a cheat and a crook. His name is Bill Burwell and he runs Ram Creek Outfitters. To make a long story short--DON"T BOOK A HUNT WITH THIS THIEF!!
HE told my buddy that there were 40" rams everywhere and that they had a 95% success rate on sheep and grizzlys. Well, after 10 days up there, they saw only one double broomed ram that was just barely legal and it was an ugly sheep with only 28" long curls. They saw 3 black bears which means there were no grizz in the whole area and all he saw was 1 four month old track!
He was also told that they could hunt several large areas including a indian res and when they got there the "guide" said that they had to stay in two small canyons only because he lost his license for guiding on the res.
My buddy was also told that the hunt would not be a very strenuous hunt so that my buddie's dad could also go and get a ram without having a heart attack (he is old and has bad knees) and when they got there they learned that it would be a minimum of 3000 foot ascent every day just to get to a spot to look for rams.
My buddy brought his 20-60x80mm Docter binos that he uses for guiding Desert bighorn hunters here in Utah and he was told to leave them in the plane because they were to heavy for the horses to pack in. Oh, but did I mention that they had plenty of room to pack in several cases of BEER instead!! What kind of sheep guide leaves great optics home and brings nothing but beer?!!?
The "guide" also said that my buddies 7mm mag would be plenty for grizz because he carried a 500 S&W as backup. LIE. He was given one the day before the hunt by another guide and he had no idea how to shoot it or even how to load it!!
The "guide" also says on his website that he "guides" every hunter personally for the entire hunt and has 27 years of experience. Well in reality, he only "guided" for a couple of the days and left the rest up to a 19 year old kid with one year experience who he called, "an excellent guide".
ANyhow, the whole hunt was $7000 dollars for both my buddy and his dad and it was paid upfront. Needless to say, that was a big $14,000 nightmare!
So if you know anyone who is booking a hunt with this Bill Burwell from Ram Creek Outfitters, steer them the other direction as fast as you can!
The whole thing is being reported to the Alakan guiding board, the Better Business Bureau, and the Governor of Alaska as I type this. IT will also be made known at the next UFNAWS meeting and the National FNAWS meeting this next year. With any luck, he will be able to get his money back and put this dipstick out of business so no one else gets taken for their hard earned cash.
