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<blockquote data-quote="toddc" data-source="post: 1269987" data-attributes="member: 4566"><p>Unless you are a CYCLOPS yes binos are what you will use 99% of the time. I guided and shot control for over 10 yrs on the plains and glassed ALL DAY. Regularly spotted game up to 10 miles or further depending on AIR QUALITY.</p><p>Out of 10+ hrs a day glassing, I might pull a spotter .1% of the time. MAYBE. When the air was clear. Glassing is a 2 eye deal. Your brain doesn't work right with one eye. Yeah you can see something that you have already found BUT, God gave animals 2 eyes for a reason. </p><p>I have glassed ELR like 10+ miles with a spotter but just because I didn't have any binos with me that would do it.</p><p>As to CHEAP binos....ugh....glass aint cheap. All of my binos are not cheap because I made a living with them. </p><p>First I would 100% council that you go to several stores and COMPARE as many binos as possible BEFORE you even consider buying. My 1st pair of binos I spent a whole week on vacation traveling to glass shops all over the US, my wife thought we were visiting relatives lol. I literally spent 40+ hours testing every brand I thought I might want to buy. The interwebs is NO PLACE to look at glass. Once you have looked thru it, FINE. Buy online, evaluate IN PERSON.</p><p>I took optical charts and a tripod with a Velcro mount so I could really evaluate the glass. I also looked in lower light once I narrowed it down to check low light performance. Drove 10 clerks NUTTY. </p><p>Glass is a huge investment even if it isn't a lot of $$$. Buy crummy glass and it will COST you. Cost you game, your eyes, your sanity and your TIME.</p><p>For cheap binos I would look at the Vortex, Minox, Nikon,Zen Ray, Sightron, Pentax or something used even better. Also take a gander at Athlon and Tract, they are sponsors here I believe. Go look at it in person then find a deal used online if you can, if not buy new . If I buy new I buy at the store as a courtesy to the clerk I just jerked around for 4 hrs.</p><p>Birding websites are a great resource as well, they KNOW glass. </p><p>The main thing is look at a LOT of glass AT optical charts and take your time. As to mag you will figure it out while doing this. I like higher mag as my eyes NEED it. Someone with better sight may not need it. If you hunt mountains I would say 10X+ and I ran 15X all the time personally but we had very little heavy cover.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toddc, post: 1269987, member: 4566"] Unless you are a CYCLOPS yes binos are what you will use 99% of the time. I guided and shot control for over 10 yrs on the plains and glassed ALL DAY. Regularly spotted game up to 10 miles or further depending on AIR QUALITY. Out of 10+ hrs a day glassing, I might pull a spotter .1% of the time. MAYBE. When the air was clear. Glassing is a 2 eye deal. Your brain doesn't work right with one eye. Yeah you can see something that you have already found BUT, God gave animals 2 eyes for a reason. I have glassed ELR like 10+ miles with a spotter but just because I didn't have any binos with me that would do it. As to CHEAP binos....ugh....glass aint cheap. All of my binos are not cheap because I made a living with them. First I would 100% council that you go to several stores and COMPARE as many binos as possible BEFORE you even consider buying. My 1st pair of binos I spent a whole week on vacation traveling to glass shops all over the US, my wife thought we were visiting relatives lol. I literally spent 40+ hours testing every brand I thought I might want to buy. The interwebs is NO PLACE to look at glass. Once you have looked thru it, FINE. Buy online, evaluate IN PERSON. I took optical charts and a tripod with a Velcro mount so I could really evaluate the glass. I also looked in lower light once I narrowed it down to check low light performance. Drove 10 clerks NUTTY. Glass is a huge investment even if it isn't a lot of $$$. Buy crummy glass and it will COST you. Cost you game, your eyes, your sanity and your TIME. For cheap binos I would look at the Vortex, Minox, Nikon,Zen Ray, Sightron, Pentax or something used even better. Also take a gander at Athlon and Tract, they are sponsors here I believe. Go look at it in person then find a deal used online if you can, if not buy new . If I buy new I buy at the store as a courtesy to the clerk I just jerked around for 4 hrs. Birding websites are a great resource as well, they KNOW glass. The main thing is look at a LOT of glass AT optical charts and take your time. As to mag you will figure it out while doing this. I like higher mag as my eyes NEED it. Someone with better sight may not need it. If you hunt mountains I would say 10X+ and I ran 15X all the time personally but we had very little heavy cover. [/QUOTE]
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