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<blockquote data-quote="Mysticplayer" data-source="post: 65303" data-attributes="member: 8947"><p>After briefing the 5 pages of posts, I am amazed at the knowledge and sometimes petty pickering that can come from that knowledge. Glad to see it 'smoothing' out.</p><p></p><p>I think we can agree that ANY BC figure is merely that, a number. The real world performance will be different for us all. That performance will change from day to day, location to location.</p><p></p><p>Hell, our scopes don't adjust the same and our rangefinders have error. They may be consistent but they have error never the less.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line is how do these bullets shoot in the one thing that does matter - small groups. Are these bullets consistently accurate at the ranges and velocities that matter to you and only you? If so, then they are a success and a bullet worth purchasing. </p><p></p><p>Matt27, I am glad to finally hear that you tested the 140gr SST and did show reduced elevation adjustments as compared to the Lapua's. If someone ran those numbers for comparison, they would get a reading higher then the Lapua's 0.65. Are we both nuts? NOPE.</p><p></p><p>Why haven't others tried them and posted their results? Mostly, because a hunting bullet 'can't' fly that well.</p><p></p><p>Before everyone jumps on a bandwagon, they might want to do some personal testing to verify. Your mileage may vary but you will see trends that matter.</p><p></p><p>Too often, this sport is driven by the written 'facts'. Very little actual shooting going on. And the testing that is reported is far from statistically correct. 2 5 rd groups to determine the fate of some product...BUNK. Especially when you see a pic of the author/tester using a rolled up blanket for a front rest (true, just look at some of the 'established' gun mags) or a 16" bipod and no rear rest.</p><p></p><p>Funny since we don't judge race cars by how they look in a parking lot.</p><p></p><p>Let's all get out there and burn powder. We will then be able to come to some real world conclusions about how things do or don't work.</p><p></p><p>Richard is a guy trying to make a good bullet. FACT. Let's leave it at that and just shoot them. If you like them, great. If you don't, great.</p><p></p><p>The real world BC values will come to the surface fast enough. I doubt two of us will agree on a number anyways...</p><p></p><p>Jerry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mysticplayer, post: 65303, member: 8947"] After briefing the 5 pages of posts, I am amazed at the knowledge and sometimes petty pickering that can come from that knowledge. Glad to see it 'smoothing' out. I think we can agree that ANY BC figure is merely that, a number. The real world performance will be different for us all. That performance will change from day to day, location to location. Hell, our scopes don't adjust the same and our rangefinders have error. They may be consistent but they have error never the less. Bottom line is how do these bullets shoot in the one thing that does matter - small groups. Are these bullets consistently accurate at the ranges and velocities that matter to you and only you? If so, then they are a success and a bullet worth purchasing. Matt27, I am glad to finally hear that you tested the 140gr SST and did show reduced elevation adjustments as compared to the Lapua's. If someone ran those numbers for comparison, they would get a reading higher then the Lapua's 0.65. Are we both nuts? NOPE. Why haven't others tried them and posted their results? Mostly, because a hunting bullet 'can't' fly that well. Before everyone jumps on a bandwagon, they might want to do some personal testing to verify. Your mileage may vary but you will see trends that matter. Too often, this sport is driven by the written 'facts'. Very little actual shooting going on. And the testing that is reported is far from statistically correct. 2 5 rd groups to determine the fate of some product...BUNK. Especially when you see a pic of the author/tester using a rolled up blanket for a front rest (true, just look at some of the 'established' gun mags) or a 16" bipod and no rear rest. Funny since we don't judge race cars by how they look in a parking lot. Let's all get out there and burn powder. We will then be able to come to some real world conclusions about how things do or don't work. Richard is a guy trying to make a good bullet. FACT. Let's leave it at that and just shoot them. If you like them, great. If you don't, great. The real world BC values will come to the surface fast enough. I doubt two of us will agree on a number anyways... Jerry [/QUOTE]
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