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<blockquote data-quote="abinok" data-source="post: 65009" data-attributes="member: 16"><p>Matt27,</p><p>While I too am not especially interested in the 6mm bullets themselves, I am interested in the degree of accuracy with which the BCs of the 6mm bullets are estimated since it has a direct correlation to the accuracy of the BCs of the larger bullets. </p><p>As for buying the bullets, if I had the capability to right now, I might think about it. If I could order 10 of everything he makes (or at least a few calibers and styles) we would all have a very good idea of what Richard's bullets will do. My current financial position prohibits me from doing this now.</p><p>And finially, I do not believe that richard has any reason to "give me all these bullets to be tested".</p><p>I understand that Richard is a small operation, and that small operations often turn out the best product in terms of quality. However, the only information that I have seen on the web, or elsewhere in terms of "measured" BC are those done by Fiftydriver by reverse engineering from drop data. I know that Kirby firmly believes that Richard makes top quality bullets, and I respect his opinion, However I also know that BC cannot be determined accurately in this way. There is no other way to say it.</p><p></p><p>I do think that most of the shooters who are willing to try these bullets would benefit from accurate BCs for the bullets they are shooting, and I for one would gladly donate 10, 15, 20 bullets for experimentaion in return for accurate information. I plan to do presicely that when my 225gr .308 Wildcats arrive, provided I can find somebody with the equipment to test them. which brings me to......</p><p></p><p></p><p>GoodGrouper AKA eternal experimentor,</p><p>Are you willing/able to do some testing on .308 bullets with your 43PBL? I am of course assuming that you have something with a 30 caliber hole in it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif</p><p></p><p>I hope nobody out there has the idea that im anti-wildcat or something. As I have said, im sure these bullets are accurate, if they werent, I don't think Kirby would be building rifles around them. On the flipside, the fact that so many, including HBC is sceptical of the BCs makes me sceptical as well. I don't believe Kirby, or Richard are being dishonest in any way. Neither do I believe that the die makers are lying, but I do know that there is no information that exists that shows that the BCs we have been discussing is accurate. Im just trying to find out, as I said in the first post, how much is hype, and how much is superior ballistic design.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="abinok, post: 65009, member: 16"] Matt27, While I too am not especially interested in the 6mm bullets themselves, I am interested in the degree of accuracy with which the BCs of the 6mm bullets are estimated since it has a direct correlation to the accuracy of the BCs of the larger bullets. As for buying the bullets, if I had the capability to right now, I might think about it. If I could order 10 of everything he makes (or at least a few calibers and styles) we would all have a very good idea of what Richard's bullets will do. My current financial position prohibits me from doing this now. And finially, I do not believe that richard has any reason to "give me all these bullets to be tested". I understand that Richard is a small operation, and that small operations often turn out the best product in terms of quality. However, the only information that I have seen on the web, or elsewhere in terms of "measured" BC are those done by Fiftydriver by reverse engineering from drop data. I know that Kirby firmly believes that Richard makes top quality bullets, and I respect his opinion, However I also know that BC cannot be determined accurately in this way. There is no other way to say it. I do think that most of the shooters who are willing to try these bullets would benefit from accurate BCs for the bullets they are shooting, and I for one would gladly donate 10, 15, 20 bullets for experimentaion in return for accurate information. I plan to do presicely that when my 225gr .308 Wildcats arrive, provided I can find somebody with the equipment to test them. which brings me to...... GoodGrouper AKA eternal experimentor, Are you willing/able to do some testing on .308 bullets with your 43PBL? I am of course assuming that you have something with a 30 caliber hole in it [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I hope nobody out there has the idea that im anti-wildcat or something. As I have said, im sure these bullets are accurate, if they werent, I don't think Kirby would be building rifles around them. On the flipside, the fact that so many, including HBC is sceptical of the BCs makes me sceptical as well. I don't believe Kirby, or Richard are being dishonest in any way. Neither do I believe that the die makers are lying, but I do know that there is no information that exists that shows that the BCs we have been discussing is accurate. Im just trying to find out, as I said in the first post, how much is hype, and how much is superior ballistic design. [/QUOTE]
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