ATN day scopes

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by buzzard, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. buzzard

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    Has any one heard or know of how good are bad ATN day scopes are
     
  2. nolo263

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    DO NOT BUY ANYTHING THAT SAIS ATN!!!! Run dont walk to another brand..
     

  3. CatShooter

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    DO NOT BUY ANYTHING THAT SAIS ATN!!!! Run dont walk to another brand..

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    Yeah... what he said.

    I looked at one on a customers rifle and laughed - it was not blued or anodized... it was finished in black crackle paint. a true POS!

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  4. YOTES2CALL

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    ya.... what they said... save the $$$ and buy a NF, upper end luppy or IOR .
     
  5. Chrismadrid

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    it was not blued or anodized... it was finished in black crackle paint. a true POS!

    [/ QUOTE ] Paint is actually better for MIL-SPEC scopes as it does not reflect IR light (Anodising DOES and Bluing CAN)

    But ATN scopes are seriously not worth the money - there's better stuff on offer, cheaper, from China.

    Cant say I like Nightforce much (before anybody starts - I have NO objective reason for this) maybe I just need more time with one. IOR good glass.
     
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    it was not blued or anodized... it was finished in black crackle paint. a true POS!

    [/ QUOTE ] Paint is actually better for MIL-SPEC scopes as it does not reflect IR light (Anodising DOES and Bluing CAN)

    But ATN scopes are seriously not worth the money - there's better stuff on offer, cheaper, from China.

    Cant say I like Nightforce much (before anybody starts - I have NO objective reason for this) maybe I just need more time with one. IOR good glass.

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    The scope that I saw was shinier than a matt finished Leupold or Nikon - the crinkle was a "wrinkled" gloss paint, not a camo type paint like that which is put on mil scopes.

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  7. Chrismadrid

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    Yup - sounds like POSP type mil-spec paint. Like Hammerite for those of UK raising. IOR use BLACK paint (2 coats apparently /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif) - Doesn't need to be ROBAR or Cerakote.

    Still, shine IR light on it and with NV kit it'll just be DULL or maybe black. Do the same with (say) a PM2 and it shines like burnished silver.
     
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    Still, shine IR light on it and with NV kit it'll just be DULL or maybe black. Do the same with (say) a PM2 and it shines like burnished silver.

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    Chris,
    Is this a factor only if the viewer is using an active system rather than passive II?
    Matt
     
  9. Chrismadrid

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    I've seen this with simple GEN1 but it is much more visible with a GEN2+ - even using ambient light . Shine an IR torch at it and it's real obvious. I'll TRY to photo but god knows how I'm going to attach my camera to my monocular - obviously at DISTANCE it gets less visible - but using an XD4 set up my guess is that it shouts a bit.
     
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    Chris.- which paint or finishing will avoid that silver shining on an anodized scope?? just curious.- will it work with any of the usual cammo finishes ?
     
  11. Chrismadrid

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    Any paint that will block light reaching the metal. It's a shame that the weather doest really suit spraying water based paint - Or I'd try the KG aircure on something (not the S&B) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif