...have used the Dewey & Boretech rods; like the features of the more expensive boretech (excellent handle bearings & handle is indexed to help measure twist rate; also can get better selection of rod diameters, allowing you to more closely match the caliber)... however, the last Boretech I bought had very bad coating & the manufacturer is giving me the runaround about it; Sinclair quit handling boretech rods now, so from now on when I order a cleaning rod, it'll be a Dewey... exception: for the 17 caliber I would purchase the Tipton carbon fiber, the coated rods are just too thin to be rigid enough... thanks so much, Larry