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<blockquote data-quote="SWHandldr" data-source="post: 2498752" data-attributes="member: 114858"><p>Truth. Most of Vista Outdoor's & Olin's primer production is going to their own boxed ammo. They make more $$$ than selling the primers by themselves. </p><p></p><p>April 8, 20 19 Vista's share price was $8.06. Today it's $35.89. In 2019 their net operating income was <em>minus </em>$648 million. 2021 it was $266 million - a $914 million swing. IOW, Vista is making a s**t ton. Olin is likely similar. They - and their shareholders - have little to complain about. They're maximizing their ROI; no need to expand production capacity when they can run existing facilities three shifts and post these profits. </p><p></p><p>Supply chain and raw material issues? Yep. Labor shortages? Less likely today than mid 2020, imo. </p><p></p><p>Ammuntion makers are <em>meeting demand</em>. Literally millions of new gun owners. Worry over the state of our society; the same worry that drove gun sales, is still driving ammo sales. Increased spending by the Federal gubmint drives inflation. More dollars chasing product plus rising production costs, partly caused by world events, partly by the same lowered value of our currency. </p><p></p><p>It ain't a conspiracy; it's reality. Will prices come down? Probably, eventually, but not to where they were a few years ago. Mid-term elections and 2024 present opportunities for political course correcton but even should R's retake Congress, prices will take a couple of years to stabilze / decrease. </p><p></p><p>Higher raw material costs and inflated currency are part of our existence for the near future. While I'd rather have them than a world-wide depression - or war - I think humanity, collectively has done this to ourselves. </p><p></p><p>We're less stupid than blind to the past.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SWHandldr, post: 2498752, member: 114858"] Truth. Most of Vista Outdoor's & Olin's primer production is going to their own boxed ammo. They make more $$$ than selling the primers by themselves. April 8, 20 19 Vista's share price was $8.06. Today it's $35.89. In 2019 their net operating income was [I]minus [/I]$648 million. 2021 it was $266 million - a $914 million swing. IOW, Vista is making a s**t ton. Olin is likely similar. They - and their shareholders - have little to complain about. They're maximizing their ROI; no need to expand production capacity when they can run existing facilities three shifts and post these profits. Supply chain and raw material issues? Yep. Labor shortages? Less likely today than mid 2020, imo. Ammuntion makers are [I]meeting demand[/I]. Literally millions of new gun owners. Worry over the state of our society; the same worry that drove gun sales, is still driving ammo sales. Increased spending by the Federal gubmint drives inflation. More dollars chasing product plus rising production costs, partly caused by world events, partly by the same lowered value of our currency. It ain't a conspiracy; it's reality. Will prices come down? Probably, eventually, but not to where they were a few years ago. Mid-term elections and 2024 present opportunities for political course correcton but even should R's retake Congress, prices will take a couple of years to stabilze / decrease. Higher raw material costs and inflated currency are part of our existence for the near future. While I'd rather have them than a world-wide depression - or war - I think humanity, collectively has done this to ourselves. We're less stupid than blind to the past. [/QUOTE]
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