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AR15/10 Rifles
AR-15 Mil-Spec Vs After Market
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<blockquote data-quote="tigguy" data-source="post: 611662" data-attributes="member: 27968"><p>Depends on what your expectations and uses are. There are various makers and manufacturers with the same varying degree of build precision, resulting in a few companies that nobody would buy from. If you're looking for a mil-spec'd weapon because you want it to be able to accept almost any and every mil-spec'd AR15 accessory and/or part ever invented, then buy a middle to upper end mil-spec'd upper and lower with mil-spec'd guts and add all of the mil-spec'd goodies your heart desires. If your uses dictate that all you're looking for in a weapon is to kill paper, to hunt with, or to take care of that occasional malfeasant that may want to enter your home and do you harm, a middle to upper end commercial version of an AR will suit your needs just fine. There are plenty of accessories that may or aren't mil-spec that will fit your weapon and will still do the job at hand. A well-built custom AR will work as well. In some cases and uses, one will suit you better than the other. Most well known commercial versions will still accept mil-spec'd parts and accessories. Some have tighter fit and finish. Some group better than others. Some charge extra amounts of money just because of a name, but think that 100yd. 2" groups on a good day is normal in hunting circles. Some will have hiccups when seeing that they're leaving the comfort of a range setting for the brush. All of the above, while being or not being mil-spec. I've had zero issues with ones that I've owned and few problems with ones that were issued, both M16 and AR15 versions, military issued or bought. I've yet to see a yote or paper that got lippy with me because I was using my built-to-mil-spec-but-not-a-full-mil-spec'd-platform AR without a chrome-lined 16" barrel instead of a Colt, for example. I like my weapons to be functional, reliable, accurate, to run without incident, and to be able to handle being outdoors in the elements when necessary. That doesn't mean they have to be battle tested, buried in cement and then dug up and test fired for effect, drug through a bunch of sand and mustard and ketchup, or tortured beyond comprehension before I brought it home in order for it to be worthy of performing to my needs and expectations. So as you can see, it's all up to what YOU intend to use it for, and what YOUR expectations are. I assure you, my built-to-mil-spec-but-not-a-full-mil-spec AR will kill every intruder in my house just as dead as an LMT, Colt, HK, etc., will, and still print 3" 5 shot groups at 400 yards. And do it every time. By the way, the last mil-spec I had was the last fully built to mil-spec I'll ever own. It's fit was terrible and so it was nicknamed the rattle trap. It's average was 4.5" groups at 200yds. And one of the feedramps had a burr big enough to gouge bullets and brass. As we all know, every manufacturer has the potential to produce a turd every now and then. I certainly thought that it was CRAP!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tigguy, post: 611662, member: 27968"] Depends on what your expectations and uses are. There are various makers and manufacturers with the same varying degree of build precision, resulting in a few companies that nobody would buy from. If you're looking for a mil-spec'd weapon because you want it to be able to accept almost any and every mil-spec'd AR15 accessory and/or part ever invented, then buy a middle to upper end mil-spec'd upper and lower with mil-spec'd guts and add all of the mil-spec'd goodies your heart desires. If your uses dictate that all you're looking for in a weapon is to kill paper, to hunt with, or to take care of that occasional malfeasant that may want to enter your home and do you harm, a middle to upper end commercial version of an AR will suit your needs just fine. There are plenty of accessories that may or aren't mil-spec that will fit your weapon and will still do the job at hand. A well-built custom AR will work as well. In some cases and uses, one will suit you better than the other. Most well known commercial versions will still accept mil-spec'd parts and accessories. Some have tighter fit and finish. Some group better than others. Some charge extra amounts of money just because of a name, but think that 100yd. 2" groups on a good day is normal in hunting circles. Some will have hiccups when seeing that they're leaving the comfort of a range setting for the brush. All of the above, while being or not being mil-spec. I've had zero issues with ones that I've owned and few problems with ones that were issued, both M16 and AR15 versions, military issued or bought. I've yet to see a yote or paper that got lippy with me because I was using my built-to-mil-spec-but-not-a-full-mil-spec'd-platform AR without a chrome-lined 16" barrel instead of a Colt, for example. I like my weapons to be functional, reliable, accurate, to run without incident, and to be able to handle being outdoors in the elements when necessary. That doesn't mean they have to be battle tested, buried in cement and then dug up and test fired for effect, drug through a bunch of sand and mustard and ketchup, or tortured beyond comprehension before I brought it home in order for it to be worthy of performing to my needs and expectations. So as you can see, it's all up to what YOU intend to use it for, and what YOUR expectations are. I assure you, my built-to-mil-spec-but-not-a-full-mil-spec AR will kill every intruder in my house just as dead as an LMT, Colt, HK, etc., will, and still print 3" 5 shot groups at 400 yards. And do it every time. By the way, the last mil-spec I had was the last fully built to mil-spec I'll ever own. It's fit was terrible and so it was nicknamed the rattle trap. It's average was 4.5" groups at 200yds. And one of the feedramps had a burr big enough to gouge bullets and brass. As we all know, every manufacturer has the potential to produce a turd every now and then. I certainly thought that it was CRAP! [/QUOTE]
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