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<blockquote data-quote="James Jones" data-source="post: 104210" data-attributes="member: 8843"><p>Roy , I read an article somwhere that discusses this same idea , even had some of the same photos. I'm sure that on paper and on the cumputer screen that its a great setup but in reality I don't think that it will make such a huge differance. it has alot to do with than just shoulder angle and shape or the Weatherby line would be more popular., it has to do with the case lenght to the bullet base, that why so far only small caliber have been worked with , it would take like a 50BMG case or somthing to make this work with a 30 cal bullet.</p><p>Ralph Payne made a round back when that was sort of the same idea , it was called the 7mm Venturan , it was a short Mag cas with a radiused shoulder , supposidly got close to 3300fps with 160 class bullets</p><p>I also had a friend that did this kind of round , it was a 378Wby case shortened to 2.25" and necked to 7mm , he got to 3300fps with 160 class bullets and 80 odd grains of 4831 , barrel life was short and the velocity was not what he expected. He got his idea from the 30-378 Arch which is the same case but has a standard shoulder around 30 degs instead fo the radiused one that my buddy used.</p><p></p><p>Its hard to get ones head around but their is a reason that some of the same case desgines have been around for so long , for as long as bullets have been stuffed into brass cases guys have been trying to get more out of their guns , guys like Parker O. Ackley , Dr. E.L. Arch , Fred wade , Ralph Payne and our very own Kirby Allen have streched , pushed formed stuffed and worked trying to get the very most out of a long range gun</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Jones, post: 104210, member: 8843"] Roy , I read an article somwhere that discusses this same idea , even had some of the same photos. I'm sure that on paper and on the cumputer screen that its a great setup but in reality I don't think that it will make such a huge differance. it has alot to do with than just shoulder angle and shape or the Weatherby line would be more popular., it has to do with the case lenght to the bullet base, that why so far only small caliber have been worked with , it would take like a 50BMG case or somthing to make this work with a 30 cal bullet. Ralph Payne made a round back when that was sort of the same idea , it was called the 7mm Venturan , it was a short Mag cas with a radiused shoulder , supposidly got close to 3300fps with 160 class bullets I also had a friend that did this kind of round , it was a 378Wby case shortened to 2.25" and necked to 7mm , he got to 3300fps with 160 class bullets and 80 odd grains of 4831 , barrel life was short and the velocity was not what he expected. He got his idea from the 30-378 Arch which is the same case but has a standard shoulder around 30 degs instead fo the radiused one that my buddy used. Its hard to get ones head around but their is a reason that some of the same case desgines have been around for so long , for as long as bullets have been stuffed into brass cases guys have been trying to get more out of their guns , guys like Parker O. Ackley , Dr. E.L. Arch , Fred wade , Ralph Payne and our very own Kirby Allen have streched , pushed formed stuffed and worked trying to get the very most out of a long range gun [/QUOTE]
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