Any reason to go with 6.5 creedmoor?

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Lrdchaos, Mar 18, 2014.

  1. Lrdchaos

    Lrdchaos Well-Known Member

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    I'm currently getting into long range shooting. I have a Sps tactical 308 in a BC medalist stock and a Remington Sendero sf2 in 300 winmag. I want to start shooting some 600 and 1000 yard competitions. I currently have 500rds of 308, would it be better to just shoot the barrel out of the 308 and rebarrel it to a 6.5cm, or sell the 300 and buy a 6.5? Or just keep what I have and shoot them.
     
  2. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    If you already have a .308, and want to re-use your brass for a different caliber, it would be alot easier to just rebarrel it to .260 Rem or .260 Rem AI and you can neck-down your .308 brass to make .260 brass without any major issues. Or, if you prefer, Lapua makes .260 Rem brass you can buy new.

    I personally would choose the .260 AI over the 6.5 Creedmoor...Just my personal preference, even though I don't own any 6.5 calibers at the moment, so my opinion is not based on bias, just my personal opinion as to which one I like better. I hope to build a .260 AI someday soon.

    I love my .308....And if you can shoot the barrel out of it, you're doing some serious work. It can take upwards of 10,000 rounds to wear out a .308 Win barrel...Sometimes more. I believe the AMU changed their M14 barrels somewhere around 14,000 rounds, if I remember correctly. That's ALOT of shooting.

    I think everyone should own a .308. And I am also an advocate of collecting guns, and NOT selling them. I will never sell any guns, because you can ALWAYS fix them up and make them better, unless it gets runover by a D9 dozer of something. Then it'd be comeplete scrap metal. LOL

    I say keep the .308 and learn to shoot to 1000 with it, and it will make you a much better shot in the long run, when you do decide to get one of the faster 6.5's, that will make shooting into the wind a breeze (pun intended :D ).
     

  3. Outlaw6.0

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    Keep the 300 for serious long range work. With the long range bullet offerings starting at 200 grains, your rifle has the capability to reach a mile with ease. For close(er) range shooting, there is nothing wrong with your 308. If it's accurate, keep it & rock on. If/when you do shoot out the barrel, the 6.5 Creed' is a great choice. Factory match ammo is cheap, abundant & accurate. Reloading components are cheap & of high quality. Recoil is light & under most all environmental circumstances, it will outperform the 308 in most all categories except one, barrel life.


    As of right now, unless your 308 doesn't perform or you're just tired of it, stick with it. A valuable training tool that will allow you to take game in excess of 500yds (skilled shooter needed) coupled with thousands of rounds of barrel life are hard to beat.


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  4. chas3stix

    chas3stix Well-Known Member

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    I can give you three good reasons for choosing the 6.5Creedmoor.
    1. It is accurate.
    2. It's easy on the shoulder.
    3. It's not a barrel burner like the 6.5X284.
    Just my $0.02 worth.
     
  5. Lrdchaos

    Lrdchaos Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info. I've decided to keep both. I'm going to shoot the 308 for the next few years, at that point I may choose to change it up a bit.
     
  6. jfseaman

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    Good choice.

    Your 308 can do anything the 6.5/260s can and you already have it.

    Lots of loads, lots of bullets.
     
  7. Outlaw6.0

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    No it can't. But I do agree that there is nothing wrong with the 308.


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  8. blackaj

    blackaj Well-Known Member

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    What?? The 308 is a freakin dog compared to other 6.5 options. I've owned a long range setup in 308, heck I killed my first and biggest bull elk with that gun but I still moved on to better things. The 300 win mag is great though, keep that and get rid of the impotent cousin.
    The military advantage is what got the 308 so much attention, but come on guys it's 2014 there are so many superior cartridges out there!
     
  9. MudRunner2005

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    So, you're telling me that my .308 pushing a Berger 210 VLD at 2,400 fps is impotent? Last time I checked my ballistic chart it's still holding 1,452 FPS, and over 1000 lbs of energy at 800 yards. I wouldn't call that impotent...I'd call that a sledgehammer. Might not be the fastest swinger, but it hits hard as hell.

    If he already has a .300 why would he sell the .308, instead if using it as a range gun?
     
  10. Swamplord

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    I would choose the 6.5 Creedmoor if I was to build a mini 6.5... no reason other than I like new stuff
    here's some good info

    ....Best Rifle Caliber
     
  11. Outlaw6.0

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    Easy there. :) A very quick (& hopefully correct) calculation in JBM, at my altitude the 6.5 creed' pushing the 140 Booger @ 2800fps shows nearly 1100ft/lbs of energy @ 800yds. With what I can only guess as a substantial improvement in drop/drift.

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    Granted, I didn't scrutinize every aspect of the input data, this should be pretty solid.

    60*
    4400ft ASL
    50% Humidity
    29.92 in Hg



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  12. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't comparing it to anything, I was just wanting to know why someone would say the .308 is "impotent", when it is clearly not your grandpa's slow old .308 anymore. New technology and vast improvements have made it a very formidable round these days.
     
  13. Outlaw6.0

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    I understand what you're saying. I only hit JBM to see where a lighter recoiling, flatter shooting cartridge would fall in line with your 308 results. My A.D.D. tends to flair up when stuff like that pops into my mind :cool:.
    While I might not have used the term impotent, compared to some of the more modern cartridges... it's not far from the top of my list of "choice" words.

    I would like to see, a 185 Juggernaut or 190 VLD tested in the 308 with a healthy dose of RL-17 though...


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  14. Barrelnut

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    All considered, maybe keeping the 308 is the best idea, especially that there is 500 rounds of practice ammo available. If you shoot FTR competitions, you will be restricted to the 308 anyways and that is usually the biggest group at a comp. It really just depends on if the 308 meets your accuracy needs. If not, the Creedmoor is a viable option, it is definitely easier to shoot at long range with less wind drift and drop. But that would just put you in F-class open with all of the other 6.5's and big 30 cals to compete against. :)