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<blockquote data-quote="trhall" data-source="post: 1531512" data-attributes="member: 26233"><p>Orangedust, couldn't agree with you more. I love the 300 wm with the 215 berger, not because I think that is takes a .30 cal to kill elk. In fact I've killed quite a few with a .270, but at ranges under 500 yards. I love the 300 wm / 215 berger combo because of the margin for exact shot placement that it gives me. If I'm off a little bit on my wind call and hit the lower shoulder instead of the crease even at 1,000 yards I've still got over 1900 f/p of energy! Have I killed one that far? Not yet, but I practice out in the field at ranges up to and exceeding that ll the time so that some day if the right opportunity presents itself I know I can.</p><p> In my life I have personally killed more than 30 elk with everything from a Muzzle loader, to a 30-30, to what I have used for more than half of them, the 300 wm / 215 berger. The last bull I killed with a muzzle loader at 200 yards never took a step. It was a perfect hit in the crease and straight through both lungs. He stood for about 30 seconds and tipped over. Now would I claim that based on that the Muzzle Loader is the perfect elk rifle? I don't think so. But I would say that trying to say 2,000 F/p is the minimum for elk is insane.</p><p> When it comes to elk choose the largest caliber you can be proficient with, be "ethical" with your shot placement, and practice enough under field shooting conditions to KNOW your limitations under all conditions, distance, wind, shooting postiion, etc..... Finally, understand what the limitations are of your chosen caliber/catridge/bullet combo and max "ethical" killing range for it with a less than perfect shot placement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trhall, post: 1531512, member: 26233"] Orangedust, couldn't agree with you more. I love the 300 wm with the 215 berger, not because I think that is takes a .30 cal to kill elk. In fact I've killed quite a few with a .270, but at ranges under 500 yards. I love the 300 wm / 215 berger combo because of the margin for exact shot placement that it gives me. If I'm off a little bit on my wind call and hit the lower shoulder instead of the crease even at 1,000 yards I've still got over 1900 f/p of energy! Have I killed one that far? Not yet, but I practice out in the field at ranges up to and exceeding that ll the time so that some day if the right opportunity presents itself I know I can. In my life I have personally killed more than 30 elk with everything from a Muzzle loader, to a 30-30, to what I have used for more than half of them, the 300 wm / 215 berger. The last bull I killed with a muzzle loader at 200 yards never took a step. It was a perfect hit in the crease and straight through both lungs. He stood for about 30 seconds and tipped over. Now would I claim that based on that the Muzzle Loader is the perfect elk rifle? I don't think so. But I would say that trying to say 2,000 F/p is the minimum for elk is insane. When it comes to elk choose the largest caliber you can be proficient with, be "ethical" with your shot placement, and practice enough under field shooting conditions to KNOW your limitations under all conditions, distance, wind, shooting postiion, etc..... Finally, understand what the limitations are of your chosen caliber/catridge/bullet combo and max "ethical" killing range for it with a less than perfect shot placement. [/QUOTE]
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