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<blockquote data-quote="royinidaho" data-source="post: 180370" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I'd hang out on here a bit longer before falling into the long range hunting quick sand. This thing is pretty addictive. Experience is the best teacher, as long as its some one else's experience. And less expensive too.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>The super sniper is touted as being a good starter scope for long range hunting. It good, sturdy, tracks well and is super for everything that I did with it up to and until hunting in the mountains.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> I had it on my 270 AM and had worked up drops to 1200 yds. When I got to the mountains the rifle was relatively useless at dusk, at dawn, when the mountain side was shaded and when a cloud went in front of the sun.</p><p></p><p>That's more or less 350 bucks down the tube.</p><p></p><p>The advise has been to purchase the very best glass one can afford, it took me few of these kinds of experiences to learn that. Its also said kind of like this; a 1000 dollar piece of glass on a 300 dollar rifle is better than the other way around.</p><p></p><p>Also I have jumped to the conclusion that you have a daughter with a pretty decent rifle to accompany you on the hunts. That's whatcha call priceless!!! Thus, I'm thinking to keep the cost of you rifle down but still do the job without reducing the amount you can hunt cause you have a pretty rifle and no gas in the tank. As is said in Idaho, 'Do ya see what I'm saying?'</p><p></p><p>Break Break one nine - I just read jay1957's post and your reply<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></p><p></p><p>I also am/was a hunter vs a shooter until I did the hunt this year with Buffalobob, who is a shooter, in spades!</p><p></p><p>If I were in your shoes, which I really am, regarding spending chunks of money to purposely thump an animal at distance on purpose, rather than just extend my range should the opportunity arise and there's a big difference, which I learn'd this year (take a breath here) here's what I'd do.</p><p></p><p>I did the pillar bed thing using whatever it was I got from brownells and did a nearly perfect job, if I say so my self & comparing it to Kirby's<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> following the written instructions and Kirby's process, modified by my own periodic panic attacks<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> then skim bedded. I'm sure you'll do that well. So there's some bucks saved.</p><p></p><p>One recommendation would be to let the skim bedding flow up the stock to the end of the chamber (where the bbl begins to taper). Why, you ask? I just like it and have had good luck with the idea.</p><p></p><p>If your good load then shoots better then good. If not adjust the powder up and down a little. If it still hasn't improved "that much" $40 should get you a recrown job which is never a bad idea.</p><p></p><p>Also, get the trigger pull down to 2 pounds or as low as you are comfortable with for your style of hunting.</p><p></p><p>Next I'd make sure your shooting rest is as it should be. I would seriously consider dumping any bench shooting for prone from a bipod as that's how LR shooting will be accomplished in the field, for the most part.</p><p></p><p>I'm working on a trade for a versa pod, which I know nothing about which I would chip in to the cause just for the good will. That is if you don't already have a Harris, which I despise for reasons that are inherited from some distant ancestor, I guess.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>Now we get to the scope. You said you will shift this scope to the daughter's rifle which indicates that you're gonna give her the cheap short shots. Way to go Dad! I'm betting she can out shoot you. You better keep her up to speed with you. Get her involved, if she will, in this project. That's priceless too.</p><p></p><p>Can you get Turrets for your scope. It has enough power for long range even if its a bit weak in the light passing department. I've put knobs on some of my older Leupolds back in the day. Its a stop gap measure at best, though.</p><p></p><p>I've been told that the newer scopes of some brands, Nikon, Bushnell, Burris have come a long way in the last year or so. Something about some kind of nifty coating on prizms or something?? I don't know the slightest thing about this stuff. But they are worth checking out. Again I'd do a side by side comparison.</p><p></p><p>By the time you get all of this under your belt, you will have resisted spending dollars unnecessarily, learned a bunch, had some fun and will have a much better idea of what you 'really' need for your style of long range hunting.</p><p></p><p>The short answer should have been, "yep, this is a good way to get into long range shooting and up grade later."</p><p></p><p>In the mean time put the 1000 bucks in ING.com and letter grow a bit. Yeah, right???</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="royinidaho, post: 180370, member: 2011"] I'd hang out on here a bit longer before falling into the long range hunting quick sand. This thing is pretty addictive. Experience is the best teacher, as long as its some one else's experience. And less expensive too.;) The super sniper is touted as being a good starter scope for long range hunting. It good, sturdy, tracks well and is super for everything that I did with it up to and until hunting in the mountains.:( I had it on my 270 AM and had worked up drops to 1200 yds. When I got to the mountains the rifle was relatively useless at dusk, at dawn, when the mountain side was shaded and when a cloud went in front of the sun. That's more or less 350 bucks down the tube. The advise has been to purchase the very best glass one can afford, it took me few of these kinds of experiences to learn that. Its also said kind of like this; a 1000 dollar piece of glass on a 300 dollar rifle is better than the other way around. Also I have jumped to the conclusion that you have a daughter with a pretty decent rifle to accompany you on the hunts. That's whatcha call priceless!!! Thus, I'm thinking to keep the cost of you rifle down but still do the job without reducing the amount you can hunt cause you have a pretty rifle and no gas in the tank. As is said in Idaho, 'Do ya see what I'm saying?' Break Break one nine - I just read jay1957's post and your reply:eek: I also am/was a hunter vs a shooter until I did the hunt this year with Buffalobob, who is a shooter, in spades! If I were in your shoes, which I really am, regarding spending chunks of money to purposely thump an animal at distance on purpose, rather than just extend my range should the opportunity arise and there's a big difference, which I learn'd this year (take a breath here) here's what I'd do. I did the pillar bed thing using whatever it was I got from brownells and did a nearly perfect job, if I say so my self & comparing it to Kirby's:) following the written instructions and Kirby's process, modified by my own periodic panic attacks:rolleyes: then skim bedded. I'm sure you'll do that well. So there's some bucks saved. One recommendation would be to let the skim bedding flow up the stock to the end of the chamber (where the bbl begins to taper). Why, you ask? I just like it and have had good luck with the idea. If your good load then shoots better then good. If not adjust the powder up and down a little. If it still hasn't improved "that much" $40 should get you a recrown job which is never a bad idea. Also, get the trigger pull down to 2 pounds or as low as you are comfortable with for your style of hunting. Next I'd make sure your shooting rest is as it should be. I would seriously consider dumping any bench shooting for prone from a bipod as that's how LR shooting will be accomplished in the field, for the most part. I'm working on a trade for a versa pod, which I know nothing about which I would chip in to the cause just for the good will. That is if you don't already have a Harris, which I despise for reasons that are inherited from some distant ancestor, I guess.:rolleyes: Now we get to the scope. You said you will shift this scope to the daughter's rifle which indicates that you're gonna give her the cheap short shots. Way to go Dad! I'm betting she can out shoot you. You better keep her up to speed with you. Get her involved, if she will, in this project. That's priceless too. Can you get Turrets for your scope. It has enough power for long range even if its a bit weak in the light passing department. I've put knobs on some of my older Leupolds back in the day. Its a stop gap measure at best, though. I've been told that the newer scopes of some brands, Nikon, Bushnell, Burris have come a long way in the last year or so. Something about some kind of nifty coating on prizms or something?? I don't know the slightest thing about this stuff. But they are worth checking out. Again I'd do a side by side comparison. By the time you get all of this under your belt, you will have resisted spending dollars unnecessarily, learned a bunch, had some fun and will have a much better idea of what you 'really' need for your style of long range hunting. The short answer should have been, "yep, this is a good way to get into long range shooting and up grade later." In the mean time put the 1000 bucks in ING.com and letter grow a bit. Yeah, right??? [/QUOTE]
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