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Announcing the New Hammer HHT
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<blockquote data-quote="fordy" data-source="post: 2883198" data-attributes="member: 120504"><p>Gday</p><p>I haven't been on here for awhile and had some spare time or more a distraction was warranted so what better place to come to for a laugh than lrh then you go & put the above up steve <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😱" title="Face screaming in fear :scream:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" data-shortname=":scream:" />how much crow must I eat lol </p><p></p><p>I'll leave that alone for a couple minutes while my serious kicks in as this is so important imo to finding pills with less weaknesses</p><p></p><p>Throughout my journey of trying to find a pill that covers more bases than the previous one that held the bar to a certain standard I've played with tips in many brands & learnt where they give less than ideal results to darn right failures also the good attributes ( but I look @ weakness as a better indicator as good is good in so many pills but bad hmmm I think everyone gets that part )</p><p></p><p>The hht is the only pill I've not failed. </p><p>Had one other brand come close but had subtle weaknesses in its tip design & that's a aluminium tip but way better than other aluminium tips I'd seen </p><p>I'll leave all other parts out of where a pill will fail overall in its design or a lesser extent the material used & just talking tips here </p><p>Basically The hht was immune to the normal problems associated with tips & I even went to insane angles /resistances to see if I could get that tip to falter </p><p></p><p>We ( I had a couple mates help shoot some critters while I autopsied) also ground tips down on initial testing to see what happens to different shapes /styles from a opening consistency /terminal position ( I love tinkering also to see what if ) yes I was thinking other applications also & even had deformed tips from magazine damage of a pill that sits in a magazine for 20 to 30 shots then gets fired @ distances of 400 to 500 yards checking point of impact discrepancy & terminal results </p><p>Which basically meant nothing as didn't matter what we did the consistency of that pill opening was basically the same ( you get slight differences from different resistances im talking same resistances different styles/shapes creating the same outcome ) </p><p>Leave tip out & you get bigger variations across different velocities /resistances </p><p></p><p></p><p>the new tip material has got some huge shoes to fill if it's going to pass the current one & just when I thought my testing days were coming to a end the question came from the hammer boys which took me a bit to respond then the thought of mmmm can it be better ( I don't really know how from a terminal point but if you can stop magazine damage it makes the thought/confidence better imo ) so I jumped @ the chance but time will tell how much my body objects to those "yep for sure " words of mine lol </p><p></p><p></p><p>with the above (2 parts to this ) </p><p>If I remember correctly I said to Steve do you want the good or bad news & straight off the bat he said the bad first </p><p></p><p>1st part I said to Steve was i failed to fail it yep i failed not the pill & those who know me understand what lengths I go to to fail a pill & all of these are what has happened in the field over the years that I can replicate on a fairly consistent basis & how annoyed I was from a personal point not just stupid stuff that will fail pills as anyone can do that eg glass is a classic </p><p></p><p>That is not saying the hht will never fail but it's got the most runs on the boards with any pill I've shot so the chances are Murphy is held @ arms length longer </p><p></p><p>The 2nd part </p><p>Was this a fail <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤷♂️" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" /></p><p>I guess so as I was shooting through scrub/brush & the pill failed to connect where I was aiming lol <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😜" title="Winking face with tongue :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61c.png" data-shortname=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" /></p><p></p><p> but on further shooting with my mate we did shoot through trees with the hht & as long as the tree wasn't to big we got a completely different outcome from the hh or sh line as the petals did separate from the shank ( yes ive autopsied a few trees in my time also lol <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" />) </p><p></p><p>I don't advocate shooting a animal behind a tree to clear that up & it's one I don't test for but have hit plenty of trees on running shots with a lot of different brands with varying levels of success it's one I don't like </p><p></p><p>I will give these new tips a run to see if I can fail them but I'm not saying I will fail them this time as still have plenty of crow to eat from last time I opened my mouth </p><p></p><p></p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fordy, post: 2883198, member: 120504"] Gday I haven’t been on here for awhile and had some spare time or more a distraction was warranted so what better place to come to for a laugh than lrh then you go & put the above up steve 😱how much crow must I eat lol I’ll leave that alone for a couple minutes while my serious kicks in as this is so important imo to finding pills with less weaknesses Throughout my journey of trying to find a pill that covers more bases than the previous one that held the bar to a certain standard I’ve played with tips in many brands & learnt where they give less than ideal results to darn right failures also the good attributes ( but I look @ weakness as a better indicator as good is good in so many pills but bad hmmm I think everyone gets that part ) The hht is the only pill I’ve not failed. Had one other brand come close but had subtle weaknesses in its tip design & that’s a aluminium tip but way better than other aluminium tips I’d seen I’ll leave all other parts out of where a pill will fail overall in its design or a lesser extent the material used & just talking tips here Basically The hht was immune to the normal problems associated with tips & I even went to insane angles /resistances to see if I could get that tip to falter We ( I had a couple mates help shoot some critters while I autopsied) also ground tips down on initial testing to see what happens to different shapes /styles from a opening consistency /terminal position ( I love tinkering also to see what if ) yes I was thinking other applications also & even had deformed tips from magazine damage of a pill that sits in a magazine for 20 to 30 shots then gets fired @ distances of 400 to 500 yards checking point of impact discrepancy & terminal results Which basically meant nothing as didn’t matter what we did the consistency of that pill opening was basically the same ( you get slight differences from different resistances im talking same resistances different styles/shapes creating the same outcome ) Leave tip out & you get bigger variations across different velocities /resistances the new tip material has got some huge shoes to fill if it’s going to pass the current one & just when I thought my testing days were coming to a end the question came from the hammer boys which took me a bit to respond then the thought of mmmm can it be better ( I don’t really know how from a terminal point but if you can stop magazine damage it makes the thought/confidence better imo ) so I jumped @ the chance but time will tell how much my body objects to those “yep for sure “ words of mine lol with the above (2 parts to this ) If I remember correctly I said to Steve do you want the good or bad news & straight off the bat he said the bad first 1st part I said to Steve was i failed to fail it yep i failed not the pill & those who know me understand what lengths I go to to fail a pill & all of these are what has happened in the field over the years that I can replicate on a fairly consistent basis & how annoyed I was from a personal point not just stupid stuff that will fail pills as anyone can do that eg glass is a classic That is not saying the hht will never fail but it’s got the most runs on the boards with any pill I’ve shot so the chances are Murphy is held @ arms length longer The 2nd part Was this a fail 🤷♂️ I guess so as I was shooting through scrub/brush & the pill failed to connect where I was aiming lol 😜 but on further shooting with my mate we did shoot through trees with the hht & as long as the tree wasn’t to big we got a completely different outcome from the hh or sh line as the petals did separate from the shank ( yes ive autopsied a few trees in my time also lol 😂) I don’t advocate shooting a animal behind a tree to clear that up & it’s one I don’t test for but have hit plenty of trees on running shots with a lot of different brands with varying levels of success it’s one I don’t like I will give these new tips a run to see if I can fail them but I’m not saying I will fail them this time as still have plenty of crow to eat from last time I opened my mouth Cheers [/QUOTE]
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