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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 311194" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>BIG MO, thanks for the kind words but I dont consider my self anymore well schooled than most guys with an interest in LR shooting. I think most guys know a whole lot more than me and what I do know are the essential basics for this type of shooting.</p><p> </p><p>As for the BOTW guys abd their system, I think it's a really great and cool idea. However, it has some shortcomings. I do have a strong opinion on the subject but we should separate opinion from fact. My opinion is that I will never use the BDC turret (as it is currently designed) for LRH and the reason is because of the *facts* that I stated. The facts are based the physical laws of science which do not bend and can not be altered. There is a reason that LR hunters take wetaher staions, software and/or drop charts into the field with them. The reason is because things like baro pressure, temp, and altitude have an affect on bullet drop as does shooting angles. And the farther you shoot, the bigger the effect.</p><p> </p><p>Their BDC turret only compensates for distance. It does not compensate for differnce in atmospheric conditions. Soooo, if you are shooting at an animal under conditions different than what the reticle was set up for, you will miss, plain and simple. I supose you could always walk the bullet in. The turret should get you close enough for a second or third shot hit. As for using different turrets, IMO, that is both a pain and imprecise. I actully walk up and down mountians when I hunt or drive to different locations during the day. Continually changing out turrets is very impracticle. And in the conditions I hunt, you would need dozens of turrets and you would still need a weather station to detrmine which turret to use. Why should I go through all that when I can simply dial in the elevation the software or drop chart tells me to?</p><p> </p><p>If any of the BOTW guys want to answer the issues that I've mentioned, great! I would love to hear how they compesate for different atmospheric conditons. If they come hunt with me, and all they have is their BDC turret, I can guarantee you that they will miss the long shots, unless they are really, really good at fudging Montana windage.</p><p> </p><p>If you've never played with a ballistic calc, here's one you could try to mess around with. It's an eye opener.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.jbmballistics.com/~jbm/cgi-bin/jbmtraj_drift-5.0.cgi" target="_blank">JBM - Calculations - Trajectory (Drift)</a></p><p> </p><p>Regards,</p><p> </p><p>-MR</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 311194, member: 11717"] BIG MO, thanks for the kind words but I dont consider my self anymore well schooled than most guys with an interest in LR shooting. I think most guys know a whole lot more than me and what I do know are the essential basics for this type of shooting. As for the BOTW guys abd their system, I think it's a really great and cool idea. However, it has some shortcomings. I do have a strong opinion on the subject but we should separate opinion from fact. My opinion is that I will never use the BDC turret (as it is currently designed) for LRH and the reason is because of the *facts* that I stated. The facts are based the physical laws of science which do not bend and can not be altered. There is a reason that LR hunters take wetaher staions, software and/or drop charts into the field with them. The reason is because things like baro pressure, temp, and altitude have an affect on bullet drop as does shooting angles. And the farther you shoot, the bigger the effect. Their BDC turret only compensates for distance. It does not compensate for differnce in atmospheric conditions. Soooo, if you are shooting at an animal under conditions different than what the reticle was set up for, you will miss, plain and simple. I supose you could always walk the bullet in. The turret should get you close enough for a second or third shot hit. As for using different turrets, IMO, that is both a pain and imprecise. I actully walk up and down mountians when I hunt or drive to different locations during the day. Continually changing out turrets is very impracticle. And in the conditions I hunt, you would need dozens of turrets and you would still need a weather station to detrmine which turret to use. Why should I go through all that when I can simply dial in the elevation the software or drop chart tells me to? If any of the BOTW guys want to answer the issues that I've mentioned, great! I would love to hear how they compesate for different atmospheric conditons. If they come hunt with me, and all they have is their BDC turret, I can guarantee you that they will miss the long shots, unless they are really, really good at fudging Montana windage. If you've never played with a ballistic calc, here's one you could try to mess around with. It's an eye opener. [url=http://www.jbmballistics.com/~jbm/cgi-bin/jbmtraj_drift-5.0.cgi]JBM - Calculations - Trajectory (Drift)[/url] Regards, -MR [/QUOTE]
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