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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 37017" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Brian,</p><p></p><p>The 130 and 145 gr flat bases are great bullets. Have been extremely accurate for me in the 257 STW and I am sure they will be as well in the AM.</p><p></p><p>Richard was telling me about a customer of his in Sweden I believe that tested some 142 gr Flat Base bullets out of his 1-10 twist 25-06 and put 10 of them into 1.1" I believe so they work in some 25-06 rifles appearantly.</p><p></p><p>I have noticed that with the thicker jackets on some of the Wildcat bullets, they really did not shoot well until the pressures got up pretty good. In talking with Richard, we both agreed that this was because the thicker jackets needed more pressure to bump up the base of the bullet which produced fine accuracy with these bullets.</p><p></p><p>So if they do not shoot great with starting loads be sure to run them right up to full pressures before you ever give up on them. It seems the Wildcat Bullets prefer to be driven very hard, the harder the better in some cases I have seen.</p><p></p><p>I am building a 22-6mm AI right now with a 30" 1-8" Lilja barrel for a customer and will be testing Richards 80 gr ULD's in this rifle. I am excited to see what this little monster will do.</p><p></p><p>I have not had alot to do with Montana Rifle Company for a couple reasons. First off, I have been using Lilja barrels for a long time and have no need to change. I also was referred to Pac-Nor barrels by my mentor in gunsmithing if you will and I trust his opinion and judgement on any thing gun related.</p><p></p><p>I have shot a few rifles built with these barrels and some shot well and others did not impress me. This had to do more with the fitting process I am sure then barrel quality.</p><p></p><p>I guess I just have not had a reason to try them with the other selections around. </p><p></p><p>I will not say anything bad about their barrels because I have not evaluated one that I personally have fitted and chambered but I will say they do not make the short list of top end barrels I am willing to use on one of my rifles.</p><p></p><p>I have all three AM reamers on order, should be here around the beginning to middle of December. I also have all three barrels on order as well which should be getting here the first of the year or a little before.</p><p></p><p>I have a Rem 700 BDL action in the shop that will serve as my test platform. This action is fully printed and accurized so I will just fit the barrels to this one action and test them all. Will save dramatically in R&D costs instead of three different complete rifles.</p><p></p><p>I will post all and any results I get here for everyone to see.</p><p></p><p>Good Shooting!!</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 37017, member: 10"] Brian, The 130 and 145 gr flat bases are great bullets. Have been extremely accurate for me in the 257 STW and I am sure they will be as well in the AM. Richard was telling me about a customer of his in Sweden I believe that tested some 142 gr Flat Base bullets out of his 1-10 twist 25-06 and put 10 of them into 1.1" I believe so they work in some 25-06 rifles appearantly. I have noticed that with the thicker jackets on some of the Wildcat bullets, they really did not shoot well until the pressures got up pretty good. In talking with Richard, we both agreed that this was because the thicker jackets needed more pressure to bump up the base of the bullet which produced fine accuracy with these bullets. So if they do not shoot great with starting loads be sure to run them right up to full pressures before you ever give up on them. It seems the Wildcat Bullets prefer to be driven very hard, the harder the better in some cases I have seen. I am building a 22-6mm AI right now with a 30" 1-8" Lilja barrel for a customer and will be testing Richards 80 gr ULD's in this rifle. I am excited to see what this little monster will do. I have not had alot to do with Montana Rifle Company for a couple reasons. First off, I have been using Lilja barrels for a long time and have no need to change. I also was referred to Pac-Nor barrels by my mentor in gunsmithing if you will and I trust his opinion and judgement on any thing gun related. I have shot a few rifles built with these barrels and some shot well and others did not impress me. This had to do more with the fitting process I am sure then barrel quality. I guess I just have not had a reason to try them with the other selections around. I will not say anything bad about their barrels because I have not evaluated one that I personally have fitted and chambered but I will say they do not make the short list of top end barrels I am willing to use on one of my rifles. I have all three AM reamers on order, should be here around the beginning to middle of December. I also have all three barrels on order as well which should be getting here the first of the year or a little before. I have a Rem 700 BDL action in the shop that will serve as my test platform. This action is fully printed and accurized so I will just fit the barrels to this one action and test them all. Will save dramatically in R&D costs instead of three different complete rifles. I will post all and any results I get here for everyone to see. Good Shooting!! Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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