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Africa perfect rifle for elephant,buffalo,plains game?
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<blockquote data-quote="LR3" data-source="post: 498862" data-attributes="member: 15336"><p>Delighted with the discussion that I ve been watching. So here are some thoughts - not gospel. Starting with eland and giraffe 375 or 9.3 minimal. Would thus work great for all plains and can be used with 270 grains for smaller game and more reach. H&H may be the 100yr (1912) classic but highly recommend it to my friends going to Africa and then also great for moose, grizzly. Not quite the long range for caribou and elk frequent conditions. Agree with Long Ranger that Wby 378 is also excellent but get rid of the factory muzzle break, bed the action and put on a side ported muzzle break if ok with your Ph. Some won't allow.</p><p>Here's my rule of thumb for buffalo and elephant: minimal velocity 2150fps (checked with chrono)2250 -2300 ideal with sectional density of minimum .325. In addition for buffalo, unless hunting uDagga boys, you need to be careful about wounding a buffalo on the far side - buffalo will often also protect an injured buddy particularly if they are also injured. For elephant, mostly brain shots nowadays, the same rule applies. Forget Bells 7mm. Thus, a 375 H&H with a heavy round is fine for both - solid for elephant, premium soft for buffalo with second round solid. Manners used this Mozambique for elephants . 416 rigby is also great but check the velocity since some loads are not fast enough and occasion al failure of penetration can occur. Capt Solomon culled 4000 </p><p>elephants with them. The 458 Lott is probably ideal if you can handle the recoil - Winchester is too slow and fails. So idoes often the 470 NE. The bigger ones are more for backup by you Ph but are great - Gibbs 505 if loaded to the rule, jefferies 500 was used by Hunter to take 2000 elephant and never failed as a double. 577 and 600 don't penetrate the brain always but do knock and elephant unconscious for some 20 minutes is a near miss</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LR3, post: 498862, member: 15336"] Delighted with the discussion that I ve been watching. So here are some thoughts - not gospel. Starting with eland and giraffe 375 or 9.3 minimal. Would thus work great for all plains and can be used with 270 grains for smaller game and more reach. H&H may be the 100yr (1912) classic but highly recommend it to my friends going to Africa and then also great for moose, grizzly. Not quite the long range for caribou and elk frequent conditions. Agree with Long Ranger that Wby 378 is also excellent but get rid of the factory muzzle break, bed the action and put on a side ported muzzle break if ok with your Ph. Some won't allow. Here's my rule of thumb for buffalo and elephant: minimal velocity 2150fps (checked with chrono)2250 -2300 ideal with sectional density of minimum .325. In addition for buffalo, unless hunting uDagga boys, you need to be careful about wounding a buffalo on the far side - buffalo will often also protect an injured buddy particularly if they are also injured. For elephant, mostly brain shots nowadays, the same rule applies. Forget Bells 7mm. Thus, a 375 H&H with a heavy round is fine for both - solid for elephant, premium soft for buffalo with second round solid. Manners used this Mozambique for elephants . 416 rigby is also great but check the velocity since some loads are not fast enough and occasion al failure of penetration can occur. Capt Solomon culled 4000 elephants with them. The 458 Lott is probably ideal if you can handle the recoil - Winchester is too slow and fails. So idoes often the 470 NE. The bigger ones are more for backup by you Ph but are great - Gibbs 505 if loaded to the rule, jefferies 500 was used by Hunter to take 2000 elephant and never failed as a double. 577 and 600 don't penetrate the brain always but do knock and elephant unconscious for some 20 minutes is a near miss [/QUOTE]
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