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<blockquote data-quote="LouBoyd" data-source="post: 536854" data-attributes="member: 9253"><p>Tell us more about what you're trying to accomplish. I have not made an adjustable gas block but I've considered it and have a JP adjustable block on one rifle which I've found to be less than satisfactory. . A lot depends on why you want an adjustable block. </p><p></p><p>A gas block must be initially able to handle the weakest cartridge which you want to cycle the rifle. For example, if you want to cycle with both subsonic and supersonic cartridges the gas port needs to be located for the subsonic cartridge. The adjustment then further reduces the flow to allow operation with full energy cartridges. Further reducing the flow (to zero) may be desirable to eliminate action noise and breach blast when using a suppressed firearm With that setting the action must be cycled manually.</p><p></p><p>Things to consider in selecting an adjustabel gas block.</p><p> 1. what range of cartridge energy should it cycle properly. </p><p> 2. can any gas block do the job or are other changes necessary. </p><p> 3. do you want t to stop action cycling or not. </p><p></p><p>Then you need to decide what method to use to restrict the gas flow. Some designs use set screws. Some use a ported rod which rotates to select or vary the flow. This is a cross rod with either holes or ground sides. When the rod is rotated (up to about 3/4 turn) different flow rates are selected.</p><p></p><p>Then you need to determine how to select and tune the gas flow for various cartridges.</p><p>A gas block like the JP has a set screw can be adjusted over a wide range, but setting it in the field to change from full velocity rifle and a subsonic setting where both will cycle the action is a tedious process requiring an allen wrench and counting turns on the set screw. The one I have has no lock. Though I haven't had it change when firing it doesn't give me confidence that it won't. Better might be having a lever with detents to switch between settings. ( sub - full - off ). There are many possible designs. The pressures and temperatures the port has to withstand aren't as extreme as at a rifle's barrel throat, but they are still high.</p><p></p><p> Of course it has to be practical to make, withstand hot propellant gas, fit on your rifle around the barrel and not interfere with the hand guard, and not have loose parts which will cause inconsistent accuracy. Beware of mixing different metals (like stainless and aluminum) which have differential expansion and will either go loose or tight when the gas block gets hot. </p><p></p><p>What i've decided generally in is to not use adjustable gas blocks, rather tune each rifle for a specific bullet and load and stick with it. After several attempts I no longer believe it's possible to build a rifle which can perform well with both supersonic and subsonic ammo. The problem isn't just cycling. The barrel lengths, action sizes, case capacities, twist rates, and sights all need to be different. </p><p></p><p>AR-15s/10s do have a fairly forgiving gas system. They should cycle ok with up to a 2 to 1 gas port energy range. Normal supersonic loads vs subsonic loads are typically 4 to 5 times different both in muzzle and gas port energy. Muzzle energy is a function of velocity squared.times bullet weight and the energy available in the powder charge must be roughly proportional.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LouBoyd, post: 536854, member: 9253"] Tell us more about what you're trying to accomplish. I have not made an adjustable gas block but I've considered it and have a JP adjustable block on one rifle which I've found to be less than satisfactory. . A lot depends on why you want an adjustable block. A gas block must be initially able to handle the weakest cartridge which you want to cycle the rifle. For example, if you want to cycle with both subsonic and supersonic cartridges the gas port needs to be located for the subsonic cartridge. The adjustment then further reduces the flow to allow operation with full energy cartridges. Further reducing the flow (to zero) may be desirable to eliminate action noise and breach blast when using a suppressed firearm With that setting the action must be cycled manually. Things to consider in selecting an adjustabel gas block. 1. what range of cartridge energy should it cycle properly. 2. can any gas block do the job or are other changes necessary. 3. do you want t to stop action cycling or not. Then you need to decide what method to use to restrict the gas flow. Some designs use set screws. Some use a ported rod which rotates to select or vary the flow. This is a cross rod with either holes or ground sides. When the rod is rotated (up to about 3/4 turn) different flow rates are selected. Then you need to determine how to select and tune the gas flow for various cartridges. A gas block like the JP has a set screw can be adjusted over a wide range, but setting it in the field to change from full velocity rifle and a subsonic setting where both will cycle the action is a tedious process requiring an allen wrench and counting turns on the set screw. The one I have has no lock. Though I haven't had it change when firing it doesn't give me confidence that it won't. Better might be having a lever with detents to switch between settings. ( sub - full - off ). There are many possible designs. The pressures and temperatures the port has to withstand aren't as extreme as at a rifle's barrel throat, but they are still high. Of course it has to be practical to make, withstand hot propellant gas, fit on your rifle around the barrel and not interfere with the hand guard, and not have loose parts which will cause inconsistent accuracy. Beware of mixing different metals (like stainless and aluminum) which have differential expansion and will either go loose or tight when the gas block gets hot. What i've decided generally in is to not use adjustable gas blocks, rather tune each rifle for a specific bullet and load and stick with it. After several attempts I no longer believe it's possible to build a rifle which can perform well with both supersonic and subsonic ammo. The problem isn't just cycling. The barrel lengths, action sizes, case capacities, twist rates, and sights all need to be different. AR-15s/10s do have a fairly forgiving gas system. They should cycle ok with up to a 2 to 1 gas port energy range. Normal supersonic loads vs subsonic loads are typically 4 to 5 times different both in muzzle and gas port energy. Muzzle energy is a function of velocity squared.times bullet weight and the energy available in the powder charge must be roughly proportional. [/QUOTE]
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