Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Gator26, Mar 29, 2009.

  1. Gator26

    Gator26 Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    Anyone ever used or know anyone who has used one of mcmillans actions are they over priced or are they worth the 1450 they are asking?

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

    Jan 31, 2008
    I have an older one not the one you are talking about and I like it. If I were going to buy another custom action I would take the advice of my smith and get a borden timberline action.

    I think they are over priced but thats JMO
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2009

  3. Derek M.

    Derek M. Well-Known Member

    Jul 12, 2004
    $300 of that price is name only. If you want to spend big bucks on a kickass action, get a BAT.

    That said, in the hands of a smith that truly cares about what his name goes on (which we hope ALL of them do), you can spend about $750 on a Stiller Predator or Viper action and you will see ZERO difference in accuracy of a custom rifle compared to one with a McMillan, Borden, BAT, Surgeon, Phoenix machine, etc.

    A trued action is just that. A "squared" action can't get anymore "square." The complete rifle and your handloading ability with good components make up the other 70% of the puzzle.

    I have rifles with custom actions but most are blueprinted 700s. To date, the trued 700s are the most accurate rifles I have. That said, and to be fair, I've worked with them a little longer on load development.
  4. Yorkplates

    Yorkplates Well-Known Member

    Jan 10, 2005
    They certainly look nice to me. I really like the features on their so-called CRF action. If I was contemplating a custom action, I'd seriously consider one.


    Been away a while!!!
  5. TheReeper

    TheReeper Well-Known Member

    May 27, 2008
    If I were buying a custom action, I would buy either the BAT or Viper, which is made by Stiller.
  6. RockZ

    RockZ Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2006
    I have a Stiller Predator EXtreme on my 338 Lapua Improved and it is working awesome.

    If money wasn't an issue I'd get a Bat with integral 20moa rail. It has integral recoil lug as well.

    I really like the Stiller but my next build will be a BAT
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2009
  7. B23

    B23 Well-Known Member

    Oct 30, 2008
    My 338 Lapua AI build is getting a BAT with a 20moa rail but it wasn't really anymore than the others that I looked at except the Stiller and we probably would have really looked hard at the Stiller but we could never get them to answer the phone or call us back and I like the idea of making local dollars and spending local dollars so BAT it is. You spend more for the rail but you save it on the other end of the build. I have to admit though the Surgeon is a sweet looking piece
  8. road warrior

    road warrior Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    we probably would have really looked hard at the Stiller but we could never get them to answer the phone or call us back

    I had the same problem with Stiller I guess they do'nt like money.
  9. Crane

    Crane Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2005
    I have a Borden Timberline and my 'smith said he always checks the actions for squareness and most all need a slight "tweak" but the Borden was out of the box perfect.
  10. Fiftydriver

    Fiftydriver <strong>Official LRH Sponsor</strong>

    Jun 12, 2004
    There is nothing dramatically wrong with the McMillan receivers. That said, they are expensive for sure and as such, I point my customers in different directions for a custom receiver just because of cost mainly.

    For any rifle based on a case up to and including the RUM class chamberings, my first choice by a LARGER margin is the Borden Timberline Magnum receiver.

    For a Lapua class chambering, My first choice is the BAT HRPIC receivers. Expensive for sure but these are well worth the investment. That said, as soon as Borden starts offering a Lapua class receiver I will have two top end receivers I can recommend to my customers.

    For 408 CT class chamberings, my first choice is the BAT M single shot 1.55"x8.5" round receivers.

    For the BMG, I would probably lean toward the BAT but the McMillan 50 BMG receiver is pretty good, espeically if you want a repeater.

    These are also the choices I use for my personal rifles so what I recommend to my customers is what I use myself.
  11. 257crow

    257crow Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    I have always just used a 700 action. That price sounds a little high to me as well. I am currently having another gun built by Dave Tooley and was unaware that he builds his own custom actions. That being said they are 725.00, and I am going to try one out. Should be able to report something back in a few months.

    Take Care