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Abinook, Making sure I got the die set up correctly
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<blockquote data-quote="Jimm" data-source="post: 121579" data-attributes="member: 9"><p>Hey GSSP,</p><p></p><p> I'm not Adam ( Abinok ) but I can offer some things re: your post and if I don't get it right Adam will straighten it out " dreckly " </p><p></p><p> The Lee collet dies are marvelous inventions . They allow you to neck size only and this is a full neck size ,not just down a bit stopping short of the shoulder . Another plus is that no lube is needed for this operation .However .............................there is one thing they don't do and that is seat bullets /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I am sure you meant size as you mention seater dies right after , just could'nt resist /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif </p><p></p><p> the mandrel that comes with the collet die gives consistent 4 thou neck tension in my 300 winnie and 243 AI . I realize you may want to " speriment" a bit but I would try the std. mandrel first . Also , I don't use the mandrel for depriming , I break the deprime stem off as I use a universal depriming die from RCBS . It doesn't touch the brass and I can deprime and then put the brass in my case polisher BEFORE it goes in the collet die . Saves a lot of wear and tear on the brass and the collet die .</p><p></p><p> One more note regarding the collet dies. </p><p> The press pressure required to properly size a case using a collet die is no where near as much as you may be initially inclined to exert . I suggest placing a caase in the press and running the case in the die with light pressure then check the inside case mouth with a dial mic to see what your case mouth ID is . As I said earlier you will get bout 4 thou tension with the mandrel as supplied . I feel this is a good amount for consistent ignition , especially a s your hunting with the rounds . Try the same case again with a bit more pressure and mic again to see if you changed anything ( I size the case , then rotate the case 180 degrees , then size again as suggested by Mr. Lee for maximum case neck consistency .</p><p></p><p> Keep them clean as a bit of brass of other undesirable material can cause the collet to stick closed and you will notice the problem right away as the case will not want to go into the collet die on the down stroke .</p><p></p><p> There a lot of other things you can learn about your brass when using the collet dies , but I am tired of pecking the keys at this point so I won't go there . Perhaps some speedy typers using them will step in a bit . </p><p></p><p> You will love them I do believe !</p><p></p><p> Jim B.</p><p></p><p> P.S. Go with the Ackley 30- 06 , it is way cooler to look at and you will see some gains</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jimm, post: 121579, member: 9"] Hey GSSP, I'm not Adam ( Abinok ) but I can offer some things re: your post and if I don't get it right Adam will straighten it out " dreckly " The Lee collet dies are marvelous inventions . They allow you to neck size only and this is a full neck size ,not just down a bit stopping short of the shoulder . Another plus is that no lube is needed for this operation .However .............................there is one thing they don't do and that is seat bullets [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I am sure you meant size as you mention seater dies right after , just could'nt resist [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] the mandrel that comes with the collet die gives consistent 4 thou neck tension in my 300 winnie and 243 AI . I realize you may want to " speriment" a bit but I would try the std. mandrel first . Also , I don't use the mandrel for depriming , I break the deprime stem off as I use a universal depriming die from RCBS . It doesn't touch the brass and I can deprime and then put the brass in my case polisher BEFORE it goes in the collet die . Saves a lot of wear and tear on the brass and the collet die . One more note regarding the collet dies. The press pressure required to properly size a case using a collet die is no where near as much as you may be initially inclined to exert . I suggest placing a caase in the press and running the case in the die with light pressure then check the inside case mouth with a dial mic to see what your case mouth ID is . As I said earlier you will get bout 4 thou tension with the mandrel as supplied . I feel this is a good amount for consistent ignition , especially a s your hunting with the rounds . Try the same case again with a bit more pressure and mic again to see if you changed anything ( I size the case , then rotate the case 180 degrees , then size again as suggested by Mr. Lee for maximum case neck consistency . Keep them clean as a bit of brass of other undesirable material can cause the collet to stick closed and you will notice the problem right away as the case will not want to go into the collet die on the down stroke . There a lot of other things you can learn about your brass when using the collet dies , but I am tired of pecking the keys at this point so I won't go there . Perhaps some speedy typers using them will step in a bit . You will love them I do believe ! Jim B. P.S. Go with the Ackley 30- 06 , it is way cooler to look at and you will see some gains [/QUOTE]
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