Before you jump off the deep end look at results. There are varied thoughts on what it takes to kill large game. A great thought is deep penetration with hard core or solids for defense and dangerous game. There is also a thought of explosive impact of core bonded and partition bullets. I have been testing many type bullets in my 45 WinMag and my Glock 17L with ported entended barrel which gives me great velocities. We have been setting up 12 one gallon oil cans filled with water. Most of the shots with either 225 or 250 gr. bullets either Barnes or Hornady. The 35 Remington, 350 RemMag and 35 Whelen bullets penetrated mostly 6 to 8 jugs. Handgun bullets mostly 5 to 7 jugs. The suprising outcome was the 45 WinMag with a hot load of 250 gr. jacketed solid exited 12 jugs. This is the kicker: The Glock 17L with extended ported barrel with Double Tap 147 gr. +P jacked solid penetrated into the 12th. jug. Now how many shooters have claimed a 9MM or 10MM is not enough power for dangerous game? Personally I don't carry my Glock 17L while black bear hunting but I think it is worth a thought with the right bullet. I am also aware that crushing bone is a different story.