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<blockquote data-quote="yobuck" data-source="post: 2737153" data-attributes="member: 12443"><p>What the basic issue here is, that we have on the one hand a group of people who came of age as it pertains to long range shooting/ hunting, at a time frame when there were few things other than good rifles and a few target type scopes like a Unertl for example to use.</p><p>There were very good rangefinders also, but not everybody owned one.</p><p>Those who didnt found other methods for developing information, and that in turn actually helped them become more affective, even though most didnt realize that.</p><p>As for kills, and things like first round hits, many today are of the mindset that by using older methods that isnt very possible if at all, without the use of modern day equipment.</p><p>And that is simply not the case.</p><p>In our own camp, over a period of now more than 50 years, the vast majority of our kills have been as a result of a first round hit. And thats pretty common for others as well.</p><p>How long has it been since the internet began?</p><p>Does anyone really think that untill it did we didnt have accurate elevation charts? We called them click charts back then, because many people counted clicks.</p><p>But few were dumb enough to count say 110 clicks for example. most knew that 50 was a full turn on the dial, and 2 turns was 100, and it didnt take a college grad to count to ten. At least back then. lol</p><p>So here we are all these years later, and here comes people telling the world what they need in order to do what has been being done very successfully before they were even born.</p><p>Without any of the things we now must have in order to do it i might add.</p><p></p><p>But then they dont know that, and without a few people like me arguing with them, nobody else would either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="yobuck, post: 2737153, member: 12443"] What the basic issue here is, that we have on the one hand a group of people who came of age as it pertains to long range shooting/ hunting, at a time frame when there were few things other than good rifles and a few target type scopes like a Unertl for example to use. There were very good rangefinders also, but not everybody owned one. Those who didnt found other methods for developing information, and that in turn actually helped them become more affective, even though most didnt realize that. As for kills, and things like first round hits, many today are of the mindset that by using older methods that isnt very possible if at all, without the use of modern day equipment. And that is simply not the case. In our own camp, over a period of now more than 50 years, the vast majority of our kills have been as a result of a first round hit. And thats pretty common for others as well. How long has it been since the internet began? Does anyone really think that untill it did we didnt have accurate elevation charts? We called them click charts back then, because many people counted clicks. But few were dumb enough to count say 110 clicks for example. most knew that 50 was a full turn on the dial, and 2 turns was 100, and it didnt take a college grad to count to ten. At least back then. lol So here we are all these years later, and here comes people telling the world what they need in order to do what has been being done very successfully before they were even born. Without any of the things we now must have in order to do it i might add. But then they dont know that, and without a few people like me arguing with them, nobody else would either. [/QUOTE]
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