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<blockquote data-quote="Munch" data-source="post: 2735797" data-attributes="member: 36823"><p>If you personal/ethical max range for game is 500y why go with a magnum? You will be toting extra weight for zero gain in ballistic capability that non-magnum calibers offer.</p><p></p><p>I have my grandfather's 1947 Model 70 30-06. He took many elk with it. Yet, in 1952 (the year first offered) he bought a 70 Featherweight in 270 just for hiking elk country. Of course he never contemplated taking game at distances we do today. Very very few men in his day understood ballistics to the degree or had the data at their fingertips or field of view we have today.</p><p></p><p>If you have the disposable income, build what your heart asks for!</p><p></p><p>But I'd be putting that money into training with folks like Todd Hodnett and competing in PRS or F Class to gain long range experience. The older gents in F Class took me under the wing in the 80s and taught me so many things about long distance shooting; I will be forever grateful. </p><p></p><p>Folks like Todd can take you into the back country and teach things that are important for a successful hunt at long range hunt. Consider the money spent as an investment. I would not recommend simply pounding lead 1000y down range without some formal training. Yes, you can get "there" without formal training, but, you will find success much faster with formal help and most likely avoid ingraining bad habits.</p><p></p><p>Once you're there, build that new long range blaster. </p><p></p><p>My favorite LR magnum...300NM in a lightweight stock. But barrel life of the 300NM is half that of a 300WM. I have 193 rounds through my Bartlein; a large percentage for load development based on elevation and temp. I expect to replace the barrel between 1000-1200 rounds based on prevailing life expectancy data.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Munch, post: 2735797, member: 36823"] If you personal/ethical max range for game is 500y why go with a magnum? You will be toting extra weight for zero gain in ballistic capability that non-magnum calibers offer. I have my grandfather's 1947 Model 70 30-06. He took many elk with it. Yet, in 1952 (the year first offered) he bought a 70 Featherweight in 270 just for hiking elk country. Of course he never contemplated taking game at distances we do today. Very very few men in his day understood ballistics to the degree or had the data at their fingertips or field of view we have today. If you have the disposable income, build what your heart asks for! But I'd be putting that money into training with folks like Todd Hodnett and competing in PRS or F Class to gain long range experience. The older gents in F Class took me under the wing in the 80s and taught me so many things about long distance shooting; I will be forever grateful. Folks like Todd can take you into the back country and teach things that are important for a successful hunt at long range hunt. Consider the money spent as an investment. I would not recommend simply pounding lead 1000y down range without some formal training. Yes, you can get "there" without formal training, but, you will find success much faster with formal help and most likely avoid ingraining bad habits. Once you're there, build that new long range blaster. My favorite LR magnum...300NM in a lightweight stock. But barrel life of the 300NM is half that of a 300WM. I have 193 rounds through my Bartlein; a large percentage for load development based on elevation and temp. I expect to replace the barrel between 1000-1200 rounds based on prevailing life expectancy data. [/QUOTE]
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