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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Eichele" data-source="post: 574666" data-attributes="member: 1007"><p>Most of us here are not interested in hyper velocity with light for caliber bullets. It may have been important 20 years ago before the availability of economical range finders but now it is all about wind drift. The 185 is seriously lacking compared to the heavier pills in the windage department. Range estimation errors are by all rights, a thing of the past. We (I say we, meaning longrange hunters/shooters) are intersted in downrange energy and as minimal windage as possible. Wind drift errors are one of (if not the) the most common for LR misses. High BC bullets (even at a reduced velocity) outshine light, fast bullets to help cut down on wind estimation errors. In many cases VERY dramatically.</p><p></p><p>If you are selling these based on the thought that these are 500 or less yard rifles, then great. If you want to appeal to the longrange crowd (500 yards is not really that long a range) you will need twist rates and ammunition that will lend themselves to longrange hunting applications. You have a fine product, it just need some updating. The consumer world and consumer needs changes constantly.</p><p></p><p>This is just very constructive, honest, objective criticizm. Take it or leave it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Eichele, post: 574666, member: 1007"] Most of us here are not interested in hyper velocity with light for caliber bullets. It may have been important 20 years ago before the availability of economical range finders but now it is all about wind drift. The 185 is seriously lacking compared to the heavier pills in the windage department. Range estimation errors are by all rights, a thing of the past. We (I say we, meaning longrange hunters/shooters) are intersted in downrange energy and as minimal windage as possible. Wind drift errors are one of (if not the) the most common for LR misses. High BC bullets (even at a reduced velocity) outshine light, fast bullets to help cut down on wind estimation errors. In many cases VERY dramatically. If you are selling these based on the thought that these are 500 or less yard rifles, then great. If you want to appeal to the longrange crowd (500 yards is not really that long a range) you will need twist rates and ammunition that will lend themselves to longrange hunting applications. You have a fine product, it just need some updating. The consumer world and consumer needs changes constantly. This is just very constructive, honest, objective criticizm. Take it or leave it. [/QUOTE]
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