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7mm vs 300 wm.
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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 489713" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>Pyroducks and 486, The 7mm rem mag is an excellent cartridge, don't get me wrong. It has great popularity because it has been chambered by every rifle manufacturer for many years. It is capable of taking about any animal in north america. I understand what you are both saying. With proper bullet placement and shot angle it is a good killer even on elk size game. However I think it is best suited to deer/ antelope size animals based on all the elk size game I have seen lost to hits with the 7mm rem mag through the years. Larger calibers just do big animals better. I have taken elk at over 1000 yards with the 7mm-300 wby back in the 70's. Ballistically I really thought I had something. After a long discussion with Elmer Keith he talked me into the 340 wby for long range elk. I immediately noticed a tremendous difference in the effect of that 250 gameking hitting an elk at 1000 yards vs the 175 gameking in 7mm. When I am serious after big bulls I always carry a big gun now. Big elk are just to hard to find to limit yourself with a small caliber. As you go up in weight and caliber you have much better odds of driving a bullet through a big bull elk from any shot angle at any range. The larger 300 winchester bullet is a little better at this than the 7mm rem mag. The 338 is better still and the 375 better than the 338 and the 16" guns on the Iowa class battleships will do the job at over 20 miles. I hear there isn't much meat left though.</p><p> </p><p>So it gets back to what you guys said. The biggest gun you can effectively shoot is the best. If that is the 7mm rem mag then it is best for you. Ballistically there is not going to be a lot of difference between these two. The difference is the larger heavier bullet gives you a better chance with poor shot angles to drive it through and kill the game effectively..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 489713, member: 505"] Pyroducks and 486, The 7mm rem mag is an excellent cartridge, don't get me wrong. It has great popularity because it has been chambered by every rifle manufacturer for many years. It is capable of taking about any animal in north america. I understand what you are both saying. With proper bullet placement and shot angle it is a good killer even on elk size game. However I think it is best suited to deer/ antelope size animals based on all the elk size game I have seen lost to hits with the 7mm rem mag through the years. Larger calibers just do big animals better. I have taken elk at over 1000 yards with the 7mm-300 wby back in the 70's. Ballistically I really thought I had something. After a long discussion with Elmer Keith he talked me into the 340 wby for long range elk. I immediately noticed a tremendous difference in the effect of that 250 gameking hitting an elk at 1000 yards vs the 175 gameking in 7mm. When I am serious after big bulls I always carry a big gun now. Big elk are just to hard to find to limit yourself with a small caliber. As you go up in weight and caliber you have much better odds of driving a bullet through a big bull elk from any shot angle at any range. The larger 300 winchester bullet is a little better at this than the 7mm rem mag. The 338 is better still and the 375 better than the 338 and the 16" guns on the Iowa class battleships will do the job at over 20 miles. I hear there isn't much meat left though. So it gets back to what you guys said. The biggest gun you can effectively shoot is the best. If that is the 7mm rem mag then it is best for you. Ballistically there is not going to be a lot of difference between these two. The difference is the larger heavier bullet gives you a better chance with poor shot angles to drive it through and kill the game effectively.. [/QUOTE]
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