I really want to shoot the Berger 168 but it did not do to well at the range with H1000, 7828 and Retumbo when seated to 3.450 ( approx. .050 off the rifling ). My gun is a new Weatherby Vanguard sub-moa 7MM Rem Mag. The best that i could get with any of them was around 1 1/2".......terrible. My 300 Weatherby is .40 moa with 168 TTSX at 3300 FPS and running just short of standard COAL. I am going to take the 168's bergers back to around 3.350 and some at standard 3.290. I think these Weatherbys' like them shorter with all the free-bore???????? PS.....I did use different powder charges all the way up to max with each powder. The 160 accubonds with 66 grains fo H1000 at 3.360 shot around 1" and 3064 FPS. I also think the accubonds will do a little bit better pulled in??????? what do you guys think????????