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7MM Rem Mag - hardly a sniper rifle!
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<blockquote data-quote="MudRunner2005" data-source="post: 952071" data-attributes="member: 12995"><p>I'm comparing bullet weight to case capacity...NOT bullet weight to bullet weight...That would be stupid.</p><p></p><p>Re-read my post. Your entire post was a complete waste of time and effort.</p><p></p><p>And your attempt at sarcasm and to "school me" on the Berger bullets is a useless attempt. I'm well aware the 215 and 230's are Hybrids. I have boxes of them sitting in my bench as I type this (might be out of 215's at the moment, but I'd have to look).</p><p></p><p>I own several .30 caliber rifles, one of which is significantly larger than the .300 WinMag, and it only pushes Berger 210's in the 2900-3000 fps range with a 26" 1:10 barrel... There are plenty of 7mm RemMags pushing 180's at 2,800+ Fps. I've ran some hotter than that it one of my 7mm's using good fire-formed Win brass.</p><p></p><p>No matter how much we argue statistics and semantics, they are closer than you will admit, and the .300 WM does NOT have some magical properties about it that make it "much better".</p><p></p><p>If you bought 2 identical rifles, loaded the same brand new brass, same brand and model bullets in their respective weights (180 for 7mm/230 for .30 cal), same powder, same compression loads, same primers...Then went and shot them. I bet you would barely notice any difference in performance, but the .300 would retain slightly more kenetic energy than the 7mm.</p><p></p><p>They are both excellent calibers, that are very close ballistically.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MudRunner2005, post: 952071, member: 12995"] I'm comparing bullet weight to case capacity...NOT bullet weight to bullet weight...That would be stupid. Re-read my post. Your entire post was a complete waste of time and effort. And your attempt at sarcasm and to "school me" on the Berger bullets is a useless attempt. I'm well aware the 215 and 230's are Hybrids. I have boxes of them sitting in my bench as I type this (might be out of 215's at the moment, but I'd have to look). I own several .30 caliber rifles, one of which is significantly larger than the .300 WinMag, and it only pushes Berger 210's in the 2900-3000 fps range with a 26" 1:10 barrel... There are plenty of 7mm RemMags pushing 180's at 2,800+ Fps. I've ran some hotter than that it one of my 7mm's using good fire-formed Win brass. No matter how much we argue statistics and semantics, they are closer than you will admit, and the .300 WM does NOT have some magical properties about it that make it "much better". If you bought 2 identical rifles, loaded the same brand new brass, same brand and model bullets in their respective weights (180 for 7mm/230 for .30 cal), same powder, same compression loads, same primers...Then went and shot them. I bet you would barely notice any difference in performance, but the .300 would retain slightly more kenetic energy than the 7mm. They are both excellent calibers, that are very close ballistically. [/QUOTE]
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