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7MM Rem Mag - hardly a sniper rifle!
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<blockquote data-quote="LeddSlinger" data-source="post: 952061" data-attributes="member: 65338"><p>Ok. Let's look at this then. First off you cannot compare bullet weight to bullet weight when talking about caliber's with different bore sizes. If you want to go that route then the 6.5mm's will out perform the 7mm's all day long at long range when both shooting 140gr bullets. </p><p></p><p>So in an attempt to compare apples to apples, you have to find the highest BC bullet available and measure a caliber's performance by how fast it can push that particular bullet. So when a 300 win mag can push a 215gr bullet faster than a 7mm mag can push a 180gr bullet. There is no winning for the 7mm on any level of the playing field. Not at the muzzle, not at 100 yards, and definitely not anywhere father out.</p><p></p><p> Now you say your 7mm has a "hybrid" Match Target 180gr bullet that has a BC of .674, and that's very true, but you are "omitting" a couple of things in your statement...</p><p>Berger also makes a "hybrid" 215gr Match Target bullet for 30 cal that has a BC of .696. Oh!? That's the part you left out...Then Berger also makes a "hybrid" 230gr Match Target bullet for 30 cal with a BC of .743. Oh!? left that out too didn't ya? So please do your homework and have your facts straight before jumping the gun next time. </p><p></p><p>Now even though the 300 win mag might not be shooting "considerably" flatter. It still beats out the 7mm Rem Mag in EVERY aspect. </p><p></p><p>1: Higher BC, is higher BC. </p><p>2: Farther supersonic range, is farther supersonic range. </p><p>3: Less wind drift, is less wind drift. </p><p>4: More energy, is more energy. </p><p></p><p>So there really is NO argument. The only way a 7mm Rem Mag is going to shoot flatter than a 300 win mag is if you LIE about it. It's that simple. </p><p>END OF DISCUSSION.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LeddSlinger, post: 952061, member: 65338"] Ok. Let's look at this then. First off you cannot compare bullet weight to bullet weight when talking about caliber's with different bore sizes. If you want to go that route then the 6.5mm's will out perform the 7mm's all day long at long range when both shooting 140gr bullets. So in an attempt to compare apples to apples, you have to find the highest BC bullet available and measure a caliber's performance by how fast it can push that particular bullet. So when a 300 win mag can push a 215gr bullet faster than a 7mm mag can push a 180gr bullet. There is no winning for the 7mm on any level of the playing field. Not at the muzzle, not at 100 yards, and definitely not anywhere father out. Now you say your 7mm has a "hybrid" Match Target 180gr bullet that has a BC of .674, and that's very true, but you are "omitting" a couple of things in your statement... Berger also makes a "hybrid" 215gr Match Target bullet for 30 cal that has a BC of .696. Oh!? That's the part you left out...Then Berger also makes a "hybrid" 230gr Match Target bullet for 30 cal with a BC of .743. Oh!? left that out too didn't ya? So please do your homework and have your facts straight before jumping the gun next time. Now even though the 300 win mag might not be shooting "considerably" flatter. It still beats out the 7mm Rem Mag in EVERY aspect. 1: Higher BC, is higher BC. 2: Farther supersonic range, is farther supersonic range. 3: Less wind drift, is less wind drift. 4: More energy, is more energy. So there really is NO argument. The only way a 7mm Rem Mag is going to shoot flatter than a 300 win mag is if you LIE about it. It's that simple. END OF DISCUSSION. [/QUOTE]
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