i have shot 3 elk 5 moose a bunch of deer with the 168 shooting at 3050fps shot the one moose at 30 yards complete pass through hole on the other side the size of my fist
not all complete pass throughs but they kill fast & do a ton of damage.i shot noslers partitions for years & i think the berger do more damagenot one of the animals shot with the bergers have gone more than 50yard.that being said the 180 will work even better as long as you gun will shoot them, should have a 1in 9 twist rate or 1in8.5.heavyer bullets will always kill better plus the 180 has a better bc so better at long ranges.