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<blockquote data-quote="rcdinaz" data-source="post: 615692" data-attributes="member: 31581"><p>It is a great round and the only downside as stated is brass is spendy but the Dakota brass seems to be pretty god stuff, no Lapua but pretty durable so far. </p><p> </p><p>I have been using H1000 @ 75 gr and average is 3,060 fps w/ 180 HVLD's</p><p>Also tried Retumbo and settled on 73gr but it was just under 3K fps</p><p> </p><p>I had much more consistent MV with the H1000 but I am in AZ and the summer heat is a pain. I know they are both extreme powders but the H1000 seems to be more stable in very high heat. Now that my gun has just over 150 rounds down the tube I may check Retumbo again as some are loading as much as 77gr and getting 3,200 fps or more. </p><p> </p><p>Here is the Berger load data all are pretty conservative but give a good starting point:</p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Bullet</span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Powder</span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Start Load</span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Approximate Start Velocity</span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Max Load </span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Approximate Max Velocity </span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Fill Ratio</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">168 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">H4831 SC</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">64.5</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2747</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">70.0</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2977</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">91.5%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">168 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">IMR 7828 SSC</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">63.0</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2762</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">68.6</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">3001</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">90.2%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">168 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">RE 25</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">65.5</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2784</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">71.1</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">3000</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">96.5%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">168 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">AA MAGPRO</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">66.0</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2748</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">72.0</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">3003</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">91.7%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">168 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">RETUMBO</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">68.0</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2784</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">74.0</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">3014</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">99.4%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">168 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Ramshot Magnum</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">68.5</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2757</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">74.7</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">3013</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">93.8%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">168 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">VIHT N560</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">63.5</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2781</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">68.9</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">3009</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">89.2%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">168 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">WW WXR</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">63.5</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2770</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">68.7</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2981</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">90.3%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">(COAL - 3.330"; Barrel Length - 26")</span></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Bullet</span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Powder</span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Start Load</span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Approximate Start Velocity</span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Max Load </span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Approximate Max Velocity </span></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Fill Ratio</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">180 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">H4831 SC</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">62.5</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2661</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">67.8</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2877</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">90.5%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">180 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">IMR 7828 SSC</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">61.0</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2674</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">66.5</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2904</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">89.3%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">180 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">RE-25</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">63.5</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2696</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">68.9</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2899</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">95.5%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">180 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">AA MAGPRO</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">64.0</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2667</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">69.8</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2908</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">90.8%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">180 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">RETUMBO</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">66.0</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2700</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">71.7</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2913</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">98.3%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">180 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Ramshot Magnum</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">66.5</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2679</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">72.2</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2919</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">93.0%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">180 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">VIHT N560</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">61.5</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2694</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">66.7</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2909</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">88.1%</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">180 Grain</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">WW WXR</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">61.0</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2661</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">66.6</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2884</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">89.4%</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rcdinaz, post: 615692, member: 31581"] It is a great round and the only downside as stated is brass is spendy but the Dakota brass seems to be pretty god stuff, no Lapua but pretty durable so far. I have been using H1000 @ 75 gr and average is 3,060 fps w/ 180 HVLD's Also tried Retumbo and settled on 73gr but it was just under 3K fps I had much more consistent MV with the H1000 but I am in AZ and the summer heat is a pain. I know they are both extreme powders but the H1000 seems to be more stable in very high heat. Now that my gun has just over 150 rounds down the tube I may check Retumbo again as some are loading as much as 77gr and getting 3,200 fps or more. Here is the Berger load data all are pretty conservative but give a good starting point: [B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Bullet[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Powder[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Start Load[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Approximate Start Velocity[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][B][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Max Load [/FONT][/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Approximate Max Velocity [/FONT][/SIZE][/B][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Fill Ratio[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]168 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]H4831 SC[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]64.5[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2747[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]70.0[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2977[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]91.5%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]168 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]IMR 7828 SSC[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]63.0[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2762[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]68.6[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]3001[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]90.2%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]168 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]RE 25[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]65.5[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2784[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]71.1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]3000[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]96.5%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]168 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]AA MAGPRO[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]66.0[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2748[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]72.0[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]3003[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]91.7%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]168 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]RETUMBO[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]68.0[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2784[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]74.0[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]3014[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]99.4%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]168 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Ramshot Magnum[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]68.5[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2757[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]74.7[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]3013[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]93.8%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]168 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]VIHT N560[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]63.5[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2781[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]68.9[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]3009[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]89.2%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]168 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]WW WXR[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]63.5[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2770[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]68.7[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2981[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]90.3%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2](COAL - 3.330"; Barrel Length - 26")[/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Bullet[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Powder[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Start Load[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Approximate Start Velocity[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][B][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Max Load [/FONT][/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Approximate Max Velocity [/FONT][/SIZE][/B][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Fill Ratio[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]180 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]H4831 SC[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]62.5[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2661[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]67.8[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2877[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]90.5%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]180 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]IMR 7828 SSC[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]61.0[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2674[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]66.5[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2904[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]89.3%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]180 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]RE-25[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]63.5[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2696[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]68.9[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2899[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]95.5%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]180 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]AA MAGPRO[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]64.0[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2667[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]69.8[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2908[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]90.8%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]180 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]RETUMBO[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]66.0[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2700[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]71.7[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2913[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]98.3%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]180 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Ramshot Magnum[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]66.5[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2679[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]72.2[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2919[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]93.0%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]180 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]VIHT N560[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]61.5[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2694[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]66.7[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2909[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]88.1%[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]180 Grain[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]WW WXR[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]61.0[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2661[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]66.6[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]2884[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]89.4%[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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