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7mm-08 or 7x57 mauser?????
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<blockquote data-quote="FAL Shot" data-source="post: 560798" data-attributes="member: 27328"><p>Actually, the 7mm-08 is a bit of a hack job, as it comes from the 7.62 NATO/.308 Win which was intended as a machine gun and semi-auto round from its inception. It was designed for modern short barrelled military rifles. The FAL was (and is still manufactured new in the USA by DSA) the ultimate semi-auto rifle of high production figures that was designed for this round. My sample is sub-MOA with handloads, 2.5 MOA with military ball, straight out of the box, except for a small X-Ring deresonator. Most M14 rifles are 3-4 MOA on average out of the box unless a target version is ordered at much higher cost. DSA sells the FAL new for as low as $995. A machined scope mount that completely replaces the stamped receiver cover is under $100. FAL recoil is noticeably more comfortable than a bolt 7x57, which is already considered moderate to a .30-06 bolt rifle.</p><p> </p><p>The .308 Win case neck is too short to handle heavy bullets properly, which you should be using if you intend to take heavy game with a 7mm bullet. Outside of a lightweight mountain rifle, where it does a very good job, the 7mm-08 can be out of its element. The 7x57 makes a much better long barrelled, fast twist prairie rifle for heavy, high BC bullets. The CZ 550 action is no lightweight, and it was designed for the hottest 7x64 and .30-06 loads and has government agency durabilty. No secret that eastern bloc militaries used CZ bolt guns for sniper rifles for many years, and still do. Russian Special Forces currently do. It is overdesigned for 7x57, which you want in a prairie rifle.</p><p> </p><p>The Winchester M70 Featherweight in stainless and 7mm-08 caliber is my choice of a modern mountain rifle that can be easily bought off the shelf. FN is doing a fantastic job of offering a very high quality production rifle at moderate cost. One of the tightest Mauser 98 bolts you will ever find. Closer tolerances than Kimber in the samples I have handled. If my wallet was fatter, I would have one in the gun closet. It's truly an FNchester, and not a Winchester. A bolt rifle of good enough quality to stand beside the FAL in my opinion....and you can use same brass for both, as DSA makes the FAL in 7mm-08 now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FAL Shot, post: 560798, member: 27328"] Actually, the 7mm-08 is a bit of a hack job, as it comes from the 7.62 NATO/.308 Win which was intended as a machine gun and semi-auto round from its inception. It was designed for modern short barrelled military rifles. The FAL was (and is still manufactured new in the USA by DSA) the ultimate semi-auto rifle of high production figures that was designed for this round. My sample is sub-MOA with handloads, 2.5 MOA with military ball, straight out of the box, except for a small X-Ring deresonator. Most M14 rifles are 3-4 MOA on average out of the box unless a target version is ordered at much higher cost. DSA sells the FAL new for as low as $995. A machined scope mount that completely replaces the stamped receiver cover is under $100. FAL recoil is noticeably more comfortable than a bolt 7x57, which is already considered moderate to a .30-06 bolt rifle. The .308 Win case neck is too short to handle heavy bullets properly, which you should be using if you intend to take heavy game with a 7mm bullet. Outside of a lightweight mountain rifle, where it does a very good job, the 7mm-08 can be out of its element. The 7x57 makes a much better long barrelled, fast twist prairie rifle for heavy, high BC bullets. The CZ 550 action is no lightweight, and it was designed for the hottest 7x64 and .30-06 loads and has government agency durabilty. No secret that eastern bloc militaries used CZ bolt guns for sniper rifles for many years, and still do. Russian Special Forces currently do. It is overdesigned for 7x57, which you want in a prairie rifle. The Winchester M70 Featherweight in stainless and 7mm-08 caliber is my choice of a modern mountain rifle that can be easily bought off the shelf. FN is doing a fantastic job of offering a very high quality production rifle at moderate cost. One of the tightest Mauser 98 bolts you will ever find. Closer tolerances than Kimber in the samples I have handled. If my wallet was fatter, I would have one in the gun closet. It's truly an FNchester, and not a Winchester. A bolt rifle of good enough quality to stand beside the FAL in my opinion....and you can use same brass for both, as DSA makes the FAL in 7mm-08 now. [/QUOTE]
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