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700P MLR .338 Lapua on its way
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<blockquote data-quote="pwrwgnwalt" data-source="post: 217449" data-attributes="member: 11380"><p>Thanks for the input, everyone!</p><p> </p><p>I have been reading all that I can find on the topic of scopes. I decided to do a little 'shopping' and have been looking critically at - and through - some of the scopes mentioned herein. It appears, to my eyes anyway, that the Bushnell 4200, Nikon Monarch, and Leupold VXII glass are all fairly equal, IMHO. </p><p> </p><p>Considering my .338 Lapua Magnum (w/ 20 MOA Badger base) and up to 1000 yd shooting, my dilemma comes to this: eye relief, reticle choice, overall MOA adjustment, repeatability, and durability.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p>I am guessing that with the 20MOA Badger scope base I will still require quite a bit (??) of adjustment to reach 1000 yds, even with a 200 yd zero on the .338 LM. Therefore, I have left off any scope with less than 40 MOA of adjustment (many had as little as 20-something!). </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Here are the specs I found, presented in relative price order, staying below $520:</p><p>(<strong>m/n</strong>= model#; <strong>ER</strong>= eye relief; <strong>MOA</strong>= total MOA adjustment available)</p><div style="margin-left: 20px"><div style="margin-left: 20px"><div style="margin-left: 20px"><strong><u><u>m/n</u></u> .... <u>ER</u> (in.) ... <u>MOA </u>... <u>Reticle</u> ..... <u>1 click</u> ...... <u>price</u></strong></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> </div> </div><p><u>Bushnell 3200</u>:</p><p>5-15 x 40 ........ 5154M .... <span style="color: black">4.3" ....... 50</span> ...... Multi-X .... 1/4 MOA ..... 290</p><p>5-15 x 50 ........ 5155M .... 3.4" ....... 40 ...... Multi-X .... 1/4 MOA ..... 300</p><p>7-21 x 40 ........ 7214M .... 3.3" ....... 40 ...... Mil-Dot .... 1/4 MOA ..... 360</p><p> </p><p><u>Nikon Buckmaster</u>:</p><p>6-18 x 40 ........ 6473 ...... 3.5" ....... 50 ...... Fine Dplx .. 1/8 MOA ..... 350 </p><p> </p><p><u>Falcon Menace</u>:</p><p>4.5-18 x 56 .... MS4.5-18 . 3.0" ....... 80 <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />... MP-20 ...... 1/4 MOA ..... 390</p><p>4.5-18 x 56 .... MM4.5-18 . 3.0" ....... 80 <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />... MP-20 ...... 0.1 Mrad .... 390</p><p> </p><p><u>Vortex Viper</u>:</p><p>6.5-20 x 44 .... 05BDC ...... 3.3" ....... 68 ...... BDC ......... 1/4 MOA ..... 480 </p><p> </p><p><u>Bushnell 4200</u>: </p><p>6-24 x 40 ...... 6242P ....... 4.6" ....... 40 ...... Mil-Dot ..... 1/8 MOA ..... 480</p><p>6-24 x 50 ...... 6245T ....... 3.0" ....... 50 ...... Mil-Dot ..... 1/4 MOA ..... 500 </p><p> </p><p><u>Nikon Monarch</u>:</p><p>4-16 x 50 ...... 8440 ......... 4.0" ...... 40 ....... BDC ......... 1/4 MOA ..... 480</p><p>5-20 x 44 ...... 8425 ......... 4.0" ...... 40 ....... BDC ..........1/8 MOA ..... 500</p><p> </p><p><u>Millett Tactical LRS-1</u>:</p><p>6-25 x 56 ...... 81004 ....... 3.5" ..... 140 <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />... Mil-Dot ...... 1/4 MOA ..... 500</p><p> </p><p><u>Leupold VXII</u>:</p><p>6-18 x 40 ...... 61295 ........ 3.7" ..... 56 ...... LRV Dplx ..... 1/4 MOA ..... 500</p><p> </p><p><u>Leupold Mark 2</u>:</p><p>6-18 x 40 ...... 62950 ........ 3.7" ..... 56 ...... LRV Dplx ..... 1/4 MOA ..... 519 </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Here are my questions for you experienced long-range shooters...</p><p> </p><p>I am concerned a bit with eye relief for the .338 LM. Any experiences or advice anyone would care to share? </p><p>3.0" seems kinda short to me.</p><p> </p><p>For dual purposes (target and hunting), which reticle(s) would you recommend?</p><p> </p><p>Likewise, there are 3 basic choices for w/e adjustment: 1/4 or 1/8 MOA, and the 0.1 Mrad of the Falcon. Once I get accustomed to it, which would you suggest?</p><p> </p><p>As for the .338 LM, should any/all of the above be reasonably expected to stand up to the recoil? </p><p>Somewhat subjective...</p><p> </p><p>I realize this may open the proverbial can-o-worms, but any insight or advice you can share on the above specs would be greatly appreciated, given my "short list", use, and price range! </p><p> </p><p>Thanks in advance, everyone!</p><p>- Walt</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pwrwgnwalt, post: 217449, member: 11380"] Thanks for the input, everyone! I have been reading all that I can find on the topic of scopes. I decided to do a little 'shopping' and have been looking critically at - and through - some of the scopes mentioned herein. It appears, to my eyes anyway, that the Bushnell 4200, Nikon Monarch, and Leupold VXII glass are all fairly equal, IMHO. Considering my .338 Lapua Magnum (w/ 20 MOA Badger base) and up to 1000 yd shooting, my dilemma comes to this: eye relief, reticle choice, overall MOA adjustment, repeatability, and durability.:confused: I am guessing that with the 20MOA Badger scope base I will still require quite a bit (??) of adjustment to reach 1000 yds, even with a 200 yd zero on the .338 LM. Therefore, I have left off any scope with less than 40 MOA of adjustment (many had as little as 20-something!). Here are the specs I found, presented in relative price order, staying below $520: ([B]m/n[/B]= model#; [B]ER[/B]= eye relief; [B]MOA[/B]= total MOA adjustment available) [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT][B][U][U]m/n[/U][/U] .... [U]ER[/U] (in.) ... [U]MOA [/U]... [U]Reticle[/U] ..... [U]1 click[/U] ...... [U]price[/U][/B] [/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT][U]Bushnell 3200[/U]: 5-15 x 40 ........ 5154M .... [COLOR=black]4.3" ....... 50[/COLOR] ...... Multi-X .... 1/4 MOA ..... 290 5-15 x 50 ........ 5155M .... 3.4" ....... 40 ...... Multi-X .... 1/4 MOA ..... 300 7-21 x 40 ........ 7214M .... 3.3" ....... 40 ...... Mil-Dot .... 1/4 MOA ..... 360 [U]Nikon Buckmaster[/U]: 6-18 x 40 ........ 6473 ...... 3.5" ....... 50 ...... Fine Dplx .. 1/8 MOA ..... 350 [U]Falcon Menace[/U]: 4.5-18 x 56 .... MS4.5-18 . 3.0" ....... 80 :)... MP-20 ...... 1/4 MOA ..... 390 4.5-18 x 56 .... MM4.5-18 . 3.0" ....... 80 :)... MP-20 ...... 0.1 Mrad .... 390 [U]Vortex Viper[/U]: 6.5-20 x 44 .... 05BDC ...... 3.3" ....... 68 ...... BDC ......... 1/4 MOA ..... 480 [U]Bushnell 4200[/U]: 6-24 x 40 ...... 6242P ....... 4.6" ....... 40 ...... Mil-Dot ..... 1/8 MOA ..... 480 6-24 x 50 ...... 6245T ....... 3.0" ....... 50 ...... Mil-Dot ..... 1/4 MOA ..... 500 [U]Nikon Monarch[/U]: 4-16 x 50 ...... 8440 ......... 4.0" ...... 40 ....... BDC ......... 1/4 MOA ..... 480 5-20 x 44 ...... 8425 ......... 4.0" ...... 40 ....... BDC ..........1/8 MOA ..... 500 [U]Millett Tactical LRS-1[/U]: 6-25 x 56 ...... 81004 ....... 3.5" ..... 140 :D... Mil-Dot ...... 1/4 MOA ..... 500 [U]Leupold VXII[/U]: 6-18 x 40 ...... 61295 ........ 3.7" ..... 56 ...... LRV Dplx ..... 1/4 MOA ..... 500 [U]Leupold Mark 2[/U]: 6-18 x 40 ...... 62950 ........ 3.7" ..... 56 ...... LRV Dplx ..... 1/4 MOA ..... 519 Here are my questions for you experienced long-range shooters... I am concerned a bit with eye relief for the .338 LM. Any experiences or advice anyone would care to share? 3.0" seems kinda short to me. For dual purposes (target and hunting), which reticle(s) would you recommend? Likewise, there are 3 basic choices for w/e adjustment: 1/4 or 1/8 MOA, and the 0.1 Mrad of the Falcon. Once I get accustomed to it, which would you suggest? As for the .338 LM, should any/all of the above be reasonably expected to stand up to the recoil? Somewhat subjective... I realize this may open the proverbial can-o-worms, but any insight or advice you can share on the above specs would be greatly appreciated, given my "short list", use, and price range! Thanks in advance, everyone! - Walt [/QUOTE]
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