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7.62X39-Red Headed Step Child In The AR World
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<blockquote data-quote="Huggy" data-source="post: 1656209" data-attributes="member: 101145"><p>Having owned too many X39 rifles to even come close to remembering over the years, I had always relegated them to the roll of Blastin' and to see how fast I could empty a crate of (back in the day INCREDIBLY cheap) ammo in the shortest amount of time. </p><p>Boy was that fun. And foolish, but, hey, I was young, dumb and full of.....myself. Yeah, THAT'S what I was gonna say. HAH!</p><p>Back on point, the AK and SKS platforms were generally designed to sling lead in battle and with the hopes of overwhelming an adversary by sheer numbers and volume. Remember the word "volume."</p><p>Accuracy, per se, wasn't really factored in IMHO outside of the fact the rifles WERE expected to perform and allow a shooter to hit his target at reasonable (?) combat ranges.</p><p>Consequently, guns were pumped out by the gaZILLIONS and consistency wasn't much factored in. Just having the rounds chambered, fired without killing the operator and having the projectile sent downrange with an acceptable accuracy was the norm. Not the Warsaw Pact equivalent of competition at Wimbledon. </p><p>Barrels were cranked out by the God only knows HOW many and precision given only a passing thought. </p><p>So the platforms (AK & SKS) weren't built with an eye towards Sniper duty and, thus, they didn't have a a lock on truly accurate delivery or one-hole groups. And the ammunition construction showed that philosophy and the word "accurate" wasn't really used in the same sentence to describe platform or ammo.</p><p>It was all about VOLUME. </p><p>Then came the bolt gun and the folks who began to experiment with extracting much (!) better performance. After many missteps and the gnashing of teeth, several gun manufacturers got the combo or barrel length and twist rate figured out then started to develop a TRUELY accurate projectile and things started to change.</p><p>Reloading brass was long in coming back in those dark ages but, eventually, Berdan gave way to a modern primer, powders were factored in and VIOLA! </p><p>The 7.62X39 now "can" be a reasonably accurate cartridge delivered by a decent launch system. </p><p>Used with consideration to range and game, it provides a decent Bring Home The Bacon (or venison) with regularity these days and as shown by the OP, accuracy CAN be had with a little determination, grit, hard work at the development stage and reloading bench and tenacity to make things Just Right.</p><p>Gone are the days of $100.00 Tuna Tins ammo, two to a wooden crate, so blastin' for the sake of blastin' isn't as prevalent these days. After all, kids college funds, a mortgage, Wife Unit kept happy and all the other myriad of daily life vie for those too-few shooting dollars, to say nothing about the truly CHEAP ammo that has gone the way of the Dodo bird I'm sad to say.</p><p>But, Yessiree, with the right gun and barrel, well-built ammo and glass, the X39 CAN be a force to be reckoned with.</p><p>Now if only I could latch onto a railcar filled with all those crates of ammo I mentioned and another railcar loaded with the $100.00 SKS's or even the $150.00 Russian AK rifles I would be a Happy Puppy. </p><p>Sorry for the trip down Memory Lane. I appreciate your allowing an old and dilapidated disabled Veteran to air out the cobwebs inside his noodle.</p><p>Now all you Young'ins keep posting your exploits and pictures so I can continue to live Vicariously through your exploits.</p><p>God Bless, Be Safe and........</p><p>Overnout</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Huggy, post: 1656209, member: 101145"] Having owned too many X39 rifles to even come close to remembering over the years, I had always relegated them to the roll of Blastin' and to see how fast I could empty a crate of (back in the day INCREDIBLY cheap) ammo in the shortest amount of time. Boy was that fun. And foolish, but, hey, I was young, dumb and full of.....myself. Yeah, THAT'S what I was gonna say. HAH! Back on point, the AK and SKS platforms were generally designed to sling lead in battle and with the hopes of overwhelming an adversary by sheer numbers and volume. Remember the word "volume." Accuracy, per se, wasn't really factored in IMHO outside of the fact the rifles WERE expected to perform and allow a shooter to hit his target at reasonable (?) combat ranges. Consequently, guns were pumped out by the gaZILLIONS and consistency wasn't much factored in. Just having the rounds chambered, fired without killing the operator and having the projectile sent downrange with an acceptable accuracy was the norm. Not the Warsaw Pact equivalent of competition at Wimbledon. Barrels were cranked out by the God only knows HOW many and precision given only a passing thought. So the platforms (AK & SKS) weren't built with an eye towards Sniper duty and, thus, they didn't have a a lock on truly accurate delivery or one-hole groups. And the ammunition construction showed that philosophy and the word "accurate" wasn't really used in the same sentence to describe platform or ammo. It was all about VOLUME. Then came the bolt gun and the folks who began to experiment with extracting much (!) better performance. After many missteps and the gnashing of teeth, several gun manufacturers got the combo or barrel length and twist rate figured out then started to develop a TRUELY accurate projectile and things started to change. Reloading brass was long in coming back in those dark ages but, eventually, Berdan gave way to a modern primer, powders were factored in and VIOLA! The 7.62X39 now "can" be a reasonably accurate cartridge delivered by a decent launch system. Used with consideration to range and game, it provides a decent Bring Home The Bacon (or venison) with regularity these days and as shown by the OP, accuracy CAN be had with a little determination, grit, hard work at the development stage and reloading bench and tenacity to make things Just Right. Gone are the days of $100.00 Tuna Tins ammo, two to a wooden crate, so blastin' for the sake of blastin' isn't as prevalent these days. After all, kids college funds, a mortgage, Wife Unit kept happy and all the other myriad of daily life vie for those too-few shooting dollars, to say nothing about the truly CHEAP ammo that has gone the way of the Dodo bird I'm sad to say. But, Yessiree, with the right gun and barrel, well-built ammo and glass, the X39 CAN be a force to be reckoned with. Now if only I could latch onto a railcar filled with all those crates of ammo I mentioned and another railcar loaded with the $100.00 SKS's or even the $150.00 Russian AK rifles I would be a Happy Puppy. Sorry for the trip down Memory Lane. I appreciate your allowing an old and dilapidated disabled Veteran to air out the cobwebs inside his noodle. Now all you Young'ins keep posting your exploits and pictures so I can continue to live Vicariously through your exploits. God Bless, Be Safe and........ Overnout [/QUOTE]
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