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6.5 SAUM - Was it a wise choice for Western hunting?
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<blockquote data-quote=".300 Dakota" data-source="post: 1675184" data-attributes="member: 106514"><p>There are always 50 - 100 answers to any given topic before the thread title and my eyes meet at the inbox. However, I will offer both concurring and dissenting opinions based on experience. </p><p></p><p>1) Your cartridge choice will be one of the most inherently accurate ever designed with that kind of case capacity. </p><p></p><p>2) A 6.5x285 Norma with a 140 grain Berger hunting bullet drops 7x7 elk at 450 yards like nobody's business. With more power in your cartridge than that, you're fine for North America's toughest deer species. </p><p></p><p>3] DO NOT use the Accubond Long Range for elk or moose. Doesn't matter as much for mule deer or antelope. You won't generate enough velocity to actually blow it up, even at close range. However, Accubonds are SOFT! They mushroom quite readily. I've only had ONE that's ever exited a whitetail (and it ran over 100 yards). That's from both the 7mm and 300 SAUMs. Another deer (larger) shot with the same bullet that exited the first deer, lodged under the skin. What I'm saying is that if you hit a 700 - 1200lb animal in the boiler room with that Accubond, it's going to run til all the oil leaks out and you won't have a good blood trail. </p><p></p><p>4) My selection of bullet choice for elk or moose anywhere with a 6.5 anything is the 160 grain Woodleigh Weldcore. That bullet is stupid accurate in every 6.5 I've loaded it in, and has a ballistic coefficient of .508, which is enough for you to get it to the farthest destination you ought to be hunting with that cartridge because of energy limitations...and then some. You will have a stupid accurate bullet from a stupid accurate gun, and with a stupid accurate shooter, you can get that big, long torpedo all the way through the boiler room. You don't hear too many people talk about them because they're a little tough to find. If you ever try this combination, you won't switch. And you're welcome! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> The Norma 156gr is good, too, but not as accurate as a Weldcore! 1:8 is perfect!I did bad things to big boar with these in a Creedmoor. I shutter to think at what they'd do in a SAUM. </p><p></p><p>5) Your 6.5 SAUM is a smidge more powerful than a PRC, but short of a 264 Win Mag. It is an inherently accurate round, but beware of jams in push-feed actions during rapid cycling under duress. The shoulder angle is very sharp. Either clow down and take your time, use it in a CRF (too late for op), and above all else, make your 1st shot count!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE=".300 Dakota, post: 1675184, member: 106514"] There are always 50 - 100 answers to any given topic before the thread title and my eyes meet at the inbox. However, I will offer both concurring and dissenting opinions based on experience. 1) Your cartridge choice will be one of the most inherently accurate ever designed with that kind of case capacity. 2) A 6.5x285 Norma with a 140 grain Berger hunting bullet drops 7x7 elk at 450 yards like nobody's business. With more power in your cartridge than that, you're fine for North America's toughest deer species. 3] DO NOT use the Accubond Long Range for elk or moose. Doesn't matter as much for mule deer or antelope. You won't generate enough velocity to actually blow it up, even at close range. However, Accubonds are SOFT! They mushroom quite readily. I've only had ONE that's ever exited a whitetail (and it ran over 100 yards). That's from both the 7mm and 300 SAUMs. Another deer (larger) shot with the same bullet that exited the first deer, lodged under the skin. What I'm saying is that if you hit a 700 - 1200lb animal in the boiler room with that Accubond, it's going to run til all the oil leaks out and you won't have a good blood trail. 4) My selection of bullet choice for elk or moose anywhere with a 6.5 anything is the 160 grain Woodleigh Weldcore. That bullet is stupid accurate in every 6.5 I've loaded it in, and has a ballistic coefficient of .508, which is enough for you to get it to the farthest destination you ought to be hunting with that cartridge because of energy limitations...and then some. You will have a stupid accurate bullet from a stupid accurate gun, and with a stupid accurate shooter, you can get that big, long torpedo all the way through the boiler room. You don't hear too many people talk about them because they're a little tough to find. If you ever try this combination, you won't switch. And you're welcome! ;) The Norma 156gr is good, too, but not as accurate as a Weldcore! 1:8 is perfect!I did bad things to big boar with these in a Creedmoor. I shutter to think at what they'd do in a SAUM. 5) Your 6.5 SAUM is a smidge more powerful than a PRC, but short of a 264 Win Mag. It is an inherently accurate round, but beware of jams in push-feed actions during rapid cycling under duress. The shoulder angle is very sharp. Either clow down and take your time, use it in a CRF (too late for op), and above all else, make your 1st shot count! [/QUOTE]
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