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6.5 PRC for Extreme Long Range Hunting?
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<blockquote data-quote="gregsjt" data-source="post: 1531909" data-attributes="member: 88091"><p>rfurman hit the nail on the head, all this talk about ballistics and new cartridges needing to be statistically different ballistically in order to be worthwhile is ridiculous, you're only looking at half the picture.</p><p></p><p>Why do we build custom rifles? Or load custom ammo? We customize rifles and ammo to work with long heavy bullets. We use faster twist barrels with longer throats, we load our ammo longer than the saami specs so that we can take full advantage of the case's capacity, we use longer than normal magazines or boxes to fit the longer ammunition.</p><p></p><p>Nobody did this 50 or 60 years ago or even 20 years ago. Most of the cartridges we use today were designed to use smaller lighter bullets at high velocities. Look at the 300 win mag. The saami oal is 3.4", yet Winchester, instead of using the same case as the 338 win mag, lengthened the case, why? Because nobody used anything heavier than 180 grains in a 30 caliber and the extra length got them move velocity.</p><p></p><p>Hornady is providing the market with guns (via design) and factory ammo that are set up for long range shooting. With the CM and both PRC's a guy can buy over the counter rifles and ammo and go shoot as far as possible, no custom rifle, no custom ammo, no hassle. They should be commended for this approach, the other big manufactures have never listened to the market like they do, at least not in my lifetime. Go try to buy a factory rifle in 6.5 SAUM then try to find ammo on the shelf for it. Go try to find .300 win mag ammo that's loaded to 3.6 or longer with 215's or 225's? (I know Berger does this but they're the only ones I know of). It's not only about ballistics Hornady is creating the complete system that works extremely well and is affordable, what's not to like about that?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gregsjt, post: 1531909, member: 88091"] rfurman hit the nail on the head, all this talk about ballistics and new cartridges needing to be statistically different ballistically in order to be worthwhile is ridiculous, you're only looking at half the picture. Why do we build custom rifles? Or load custom ammo? We customize rifles and ammo to work with long heavy bullets. We use faster twist barrels with longer throats, we load our ammo longer than the saami specs so that we can take full advantage of the case's capacity, we use longer than normal magazines or boxes to fit the longer ammunition. Nobody did this 50 or 60 years ago or even 20 years ago. Most of the cartridges we use today were designed to use smaller lighter bullets at high velocities. Look at the 300 win mag. The saami oal is 3.4", yet Winchester, instead of using the same case as the 338 win mag, lengthened the case, why? Because nobody used anything heavier than 180 grains in a 30 caliber and the extra length got them move velocity. Hornady is providing the market with guns (via design) and factory ammo that are set up for long range shooting. With the CM and both PRC's a guy can buy over the counter rifles and ammo and go shoot as far as possible, no custom rifle, no custom ammo, no hassle. They should be commended for this approach, the other big manufactures have never listened to the market like they do, at least not in my lifetime. Go try to buy a factory rifle in 6.5 SAUM then try to find ammo on the shelf for it. Go try to find .300 win mag ammo that's loaded to 3.6 or longer with 215's or 225's? (I know Berger does this but they're the only ones I know of). It's not only about ballistics Hornady is creating the complete system that works extremely well and is affordable, what's not to like about that? [/QUOTE]
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