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6.5 PRC 156gr Berger EOL twist dilemma
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<blockquote data-quote="Dragoon300" data-source="post: 2958987" data-attributes="member: 115285"><p>Here's how to calculate bullet rpm.</p><p>Hope it helps.</p><p></p><p>[h3]<strong>Calculating Bullet RPM from MV and Twist Rate</strong>[/h3]<p>The lesson here is that you want to use the optimal RPM for each bullet type. So how do you calculate that? Bullet RPM is a function of two factors, barrel twist rate and velocity through the bore. With a given rifling twist rate, the quicker the bullet passes through the rifling, the faster it will be spinning when it leaves the muzzle. To a certain extent, then, if you speed up the bullet, you can use a slower twist rate, and still end up with enough RPM to stabilize the bullet. But you have to know how to calculate RPM so you can maintain sufficient revs.</p><p></p><p>[h2]<strong><strong>Bullet RPM Formula</strong></strong>[/h2]<p>Here is a simple formula for calculating bullet RPM:</p><p></p><p><strong>MV x (12/twist rate in inches) x 60 = Bullet RPM</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Quick Version: MV X 720/Twist Rate = RPM</strong></p><p></p><p>Example One: In a 1:12″ twist barrel the bullet will make one complete revolution for every 12″ (or 1 foot) it travels through the bore. This makes the RPM calculation very easy. With a velocity of 3000 feet per second (FPS), in a 1:12″ twist barrel, the bullet will spin 3000 revolutions per SECOND (because it is traveling exactly one foot, and thereby making one complete revolution, in 1/3000 of a second). To convert to RPM, simply multiply by 60 since there are 60 seconds in a minute. Thus, at 3000 FPS, a bullet will be spinning at 3000 x 60, or 180,000 RPM, when it leaves the barrel.</p><p></p><p>Example Two: What about a faster twist rate, say a 1:8″ twist? We know the bullet will be spinning faster than in Example One, but how much faster? Using the formula, this is simple to calculate. Assuming the same MV of 3000 FPS, the bullet makes 12/8 or 1.5 revolutions for each 12″ or one foot it travels in the bore. Accordingly, the RPM is 3000 x (12/8) x 60, or 270,000 RPM.</p><p></p><div style="text-align: right"><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/Products/riflingx142.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable fr-fir" style="" /></div><p><strong>Implications for Gun Builders and Reloaders</strong></p><p>Calculating the RPM based on twist rate and MV gives us some very important information. Number one, we can tailor the load to decrease velocity just enough to avoid jacket failure and bullet blow-up at excessive RPMs. Number two, knowing how to find bullet RPM helps us compare barrels of different twist rates. Once we find that a bullet is stable at a given RPM, that gives us a "target" to meet or exceed in other barrels with a different twist rate. Although there are other important factors to consider, if you speed up the bullet (i.e. increase MV), you MAY be able to run a slower twist-rate barrel, so long as you maintain the requisite RPM for stabilization and other factors contributing to Gyroscopic Stability are present. In fact, you may need somewhat MORE RPM as you increase velocity, because more speed puts more pressure, a destabilizing force, on the nose of the bullet. You need to compensate for that destabilizing force with somewhat more RPM. But, as a general rule, if you increase velocity you CAN decrease twist rate. What's the benefit? The slower twist-rate barrel may, potentially, be more accurate. And barrel heat and friction may be reduced somewhat.</p><p></p><p>Just remember that as you reduce twist rate you need to increase velocity, and you may need somewhat MORE RPM than before. (As velocities climb, destabilizing forces increase somewhat, RPM being equal.) There is a formula by Don Miller that can help you calculate how much you can slow down the twist rate as you increase velocity.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/millerformula.xls" target="_blank">CLICK HERE for Miller Formula in Excel Spreadsheet Format</a></p><p></p><p>That said, we note that bullet-makers provide a recommended twist rate for their bullets. This is the "safe bet" to achieve stabilization with that bullet, and it may also indicate the twist rate at which the bullet shoots best. Though the RPM number alone does not assure gyroscopic stability, an RPM-based calculation can be very useful. We've seen real world examples where a bullet that needs an 8-twist barrel at 2800 FPS MV, would stabilize in a 9-twist barrel at 3200 FPS MV. Consider these examples.</p><p></p><p><strong>MV = 2800 FPS</strong></p><p><strong>8-Twist RPM = 2800 x (12/8) x 60 = 252,000 RPM</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>MV = 3200 FPS</strong></p><p><strong>9-Twist RPM = 3200 x (12/9) x 60 = 256,000 RPM</strong></p><p></p><p>Of course max velocity will be limited by case capacity and pressure. You can't switch to a slower twist-rate barrel and maintain RPM if you've already maxed out your MV. But the Miller Formula can help you select an optimal twist rate if you're thinking of running the same bullet in a larger case with more potential velocity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragoon300, post: 2958987, member: 115285"] Here's how to calculate bullet rpm. Hope it helps. [H3][B]Calculating Bullet RPM from MV and Twist Rate[/B][/H3] The lesson here is that you want to use the optimal RPM for each bullet type. So how do you calculate that? Bullet RPM is a function of two factors, barrel twist rate and velocity through the bore. With a given rifling twist rate, the quicker the bullet passes through the rifling, the faster it will be spinning when it leaves the muzzle. To a certain extent, then, if you speed up the bullet, you can use a slower twist rate, and still end up with enough RPM to stabilize the bullet. But you have to know how to calculate RPM so you can maintain sufficient revs. [H2][B][B]Bullet RPM Formula[/B][/B][/H2] Here is a simple formula for calculating bullet RPM: [B]MV x (12/twist rate in inches) x 60 = Bullet RPM Quick Version: MV X 720/Twist Rate = RPM[/B] Example One: In a 1:12″ twist barrel the bullet will make one complete revolution for every 12″ (or 1 foot) it travels through the bore. This makes the RPM calculation very easy. With a velocity of 3000 feet per second (FPS), in a 1:12″ twist barrel, the bullet will spin 3000 revolutions per SECOND (because it is traveling exactly one foot, and thereby making one complete revolution, in 1/3000 of a second). To convert to RPM, simply multiply by 60 since there are 60 seconds in a minute. Thus, at 3000 FPS, a bullet will be spinning at 3000 x 60, or 180,000 RPM, when it leaves the barrel. Example Two: What about a faster twist rate, say a 1:8″ twist? We know the bullet will be spinning faster than in Example One, but how much faster? Using the formula, this is simple to calculate. Assuming the same MV of 3000 FPS, the bullet makes 12/8 or 1.5 revolutions for each 12″ or one foot it travels in the bore. Accordingly, the RPM is 3000 x (12/8) x 60, or 270,000 RPM. [RIGHT][IMG align="right"]https://accurateshooter.net/Products/riflingx142.jpg[/IMG][/RIGHT][B]Implications for Gun Builders and Reloaders[/B] Calculating the RPM based on twist rate and MV gives us some very important information. Number one, we can tailor the load to decrease velocity just enough to avoid jacket failure and bullet blow-up at excessive RPMs. Number two, knowing how to find bullet RPM helps us compare barrels of different twist rates. Once we find that a bullet is stable at a given RPM, that gives us a "target" to meet or exceed in other barrels with a different twist rate. Although there are other important factors to consider, if you speed up the bullet (i.e. increase MV), you MAY be able to run a slower twist-rate barrel, so long as you maintain the requisite RPM for stabilization and other factors contributing to Gyroscopic Stability are present. In fact, you may need somewhat MORE RPM as you increase velocity, because more speed puts more pressure, a destabilizing force, on the nose of the bullet. You need to compensate for that destabilizing force with somewhat more RPM. But, as a general rule, if you increase velocity you CAN decrease twist rate. What's the benefit? The slower twist-rate barrel may, potentially, be more accurate. And barrel heat and friction may be reduced somewhat. Just remember that as you reduce twist rate you need to increase velocity, and you may need somewhat MORE RPM than before. (As velocities climb, destabilizing forces increase somewhat, RPM being equal.) There is a formula by Don Miller that can help you calculate how much you can slow down the twist rate as you increase velocity. [URL='http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/millerformula.xls']CLICK HERE for Miller Formula in Excel Spreadsheet Format[/URL] That said, we note that bullet-makers provide a recommended twist rate for their bullets. This is the "safe bet" to achieve stabilization with that bullet, and it may also indicate the twist rate at which the bullet shoots best. Though the RPM number alone does not assure gyroscopic stability, an RPM-based calculation can be very useful. We've seen real world examples where a bullet that needs an 8-twist barrel at 2800 FPS MV, would stabilize in a 9-twist barrel at 3200 FPS MV. Consider these examples. [B]MV = 2800 FPS 8-Twist RPM = 2800 x (12/8) x 60 = 252,000 RPM MV = 3200 FPS 9-Twist RPM = 3200 x (12/9) x 60 = 256,000 RPM[/B] Of course max velocity will be limited by case capacity and pressure. You can't switch to a slower twist-rate barrel and maintain RPM if you've already maxed out your MV. But the Miller Formula can help you select an optimal twist rate if you're thinking of running the same bullet in a larger case with more potential velocity. [/QUOTE]
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