Okay I know this topic has been beat to death and there are many other forums regarding this topic. I have read most to all of them. Just wanting some fresh opinions on the topic. I am basically looking for load data comparisons. Also, will be running magazines on my future rifle. I have read the Creed is a better for that. Please give me your 2 cents on this! Whatever you think I would appreciate it! Thanks for reading !! gun) Also for my build I was going to use a Krieger 1:8 Twist. And a 28 Inch Barrel. Give me your opinions on the barrel length and choice of barrel maker ! Thanks alot guys !