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<blockquote data-quote="Broz" data-source="post: 751117" data-attributes="member: 7503"><p>1: I will spend as much time as I feel I need to be confident in the shot. That will vary time to time. I have waited for up to 1/2 hour or longer, if I was not confident. Out here the wind may die down or get worse in that time. If it gets worse I pass. But if I am not confident I will wait for improved conditions, get closer, or pass .</p><p> </p><p>2:Shot placement is king. I had very good experiences with the SMK's and had 2 one shot kills over 1100 yards. But the less drift of the Berger and better long range accuracy is a no brainer for me. I have taken game past 1275 with a Berger and it still opened. I took a coyote at close to 1200 with a 300 OTM and it opened even on this thin light animal. I have tested this bullet and am confident that as of today it suits my long range needs best of any bullet I could get on a regular basis.</p><p> </p><p>3:Ok lets look at two of my long range shots I told about. The one at 805 that landed at the back of the ribs and the one at 1130 where I was in front of the shoulder. My own experience tells me that my biggest problem and most likely error will be reading the wind. I think that could apply to many long range shooters at every level of practice or experience. So if you lower that point of aim in your pic about 4 or 5" and move it back 6 or 7" can you see why I like that point of aim? It gives me the widest kill zone I could get. It also gives me the largest zone for elevation. If go high and I get the spine great!! If I go low and get heart awesome! But I am not that confident to be assured I will hit a 4 or 5" wide spine all the time. What happens if the wind takes that point of aim in the pic left or right. To the right it is spine or nothing. Better be spot on for elevation, angle of shot and not have any lifting wind. If it goes left and the bullet of choice does not fragment, you better hope for some lift to get the spine or that could result in the area that only clips the top of the lungs and without fragments no heart or blood circulatory damage. That elk even with an exit could go miles.</p><p> </p><p>I believe I do what I need to insure the best results for me at long range. I want the highest possible error factor incase something goes wrong. I have said it before. No bullet is perfect in all instances. You CAN count on that. But know what you are using. Know its strong and weak points and try to use it to serve you best. For me and my long range shooting I use a very accurate, high BC, low drift bullet, heavy for caliber that will fragment to increase damage even if I am off a little. I want the biggest kill zone I can get and I center my shots there. I feel that gives me the best odds for success. So far I have been blessed with no losses and attribute some of that success to my chosen methods.</p><p> </p><p>Jeff</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Broz, post: 751117, member: 7503"] 1: I will spend as much time as I feel I need to be confident in the shot. That will vary time to time. I have waited for up to 1/2 hour or longer, if I was not confident. Out here the wind may die down or get worse in that time. If it gets worse I pass. But if I am not confident I will wait for improved conditions, get closer, or pass . 2:Shot placement is king. I had very good experiences with the SMK's and had 2 one shot kills over 1100 yards. But the less drift of the Berger and better long range accuracy is a no brainer for me. I have taken game past 1275 with a Berger and it still opened. I took a coyote at close to 1200 with a 300 OTM and it opened even on this thin light animal. I have tested this bullet and am confident that as of today it suits my long range needs best of any bullet I could get on a regular basis. 3:Ok lets look at two of my long range shots I told about. The one at 805 that landed at the back of the ribs and the one at 1130 where I was in front of the shoulder. My own experience tells me that my biggest problem and most likely error will be reading the wind. I think that could apply to many long range shooters at every level of practice or experience. So if you lower that point of aim in your pic about 4 or 5" and move it back 6 or 7" can you see why I like that point of aim? It gives me the widest kill zone I could get. It also gives me the largest zone for elevation. If go high and I get the spine great!! If I go low and get heart awesome! But I am not that confident to be assured I will hit a 4 or 5" wide spine all the time. What happens if the wind takes that point of aim in the pic left or right. To the right it is spine or nothing. Better be spot on for elevation, angle of shot and not have any lifting wind. If it goes left and the bullet of choice does not fragment, you better hope for some lift to get the spine or that could result in the area that only clips the top of the lungs and without fragments no heart or blood circulatory damage. That elk even with an exit could go miles. I believe I do what I need to insure the best results for me at long range. I want the highest possible error factor incase something goes wrong. I have said it before. No bullet is perfect in all instances. You CAN count on that. But know what you are using. Know its strong and weak points and try to use it to serve you best. For me and my long range shooting I use a very accurate, high BC, low drift bullet, heavy for caliber that will fragment to increase damage even if I am off a little. I want the biggest kill zone I can get and I center my shots there. I feel that gives me the best odds for success. So far I have been blessed with no losses and attribute some of that success to my chosen methods. Jeff [/QUOTE]
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