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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 1983529" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>Another Update on the 460 S&W rifle.</p><p></p><p>I read a lot about the hard cast bullets and was dying to try them because they were touted to be the best bear load.</p><p></p><p>I set up the recoil device and the chronograph to get plenty of data. I poster the velocities and energies earlier but will re post them for those that didn't see the test.</p><p></p><p>After testing the 395 grain hard cast, I was a little disappointed in their performance compared to other loads.</p><p>200 grain Hornady factory = 2999 ft/sec Average (In the rifle) with 3995 ft/lbs of muzzle energy.</p><p>300 grain XTP mag = 2492 ft/sec Average with 4137 ft/lbs of muzzle energy.</p><p>325 grain XTP mag = 2355 ft/sec Average with 4003 ft/lbs of Muzzle energy.</p><p>395 grain Corbon hard cast = 1900 ft/sec Average with 3167 ft/lbs of muzzle energy.</p><p></p><p>Velocity and energy was below all other loads and I assumed it was because of the lead bullets.</p><p></p><p>After getting the rifle home and using the bore scope with it just dry patched. I saw leading and proceeded to remove it. It was very stubborn and I ended up soaking the bore over night in Boretech Eliminator and continued the next morning. after getting the lead our I went back and looked at my XVR pistol with the bore scope and found lead in it from shooting the hard cast bullets.</p><p></p><p>Conclusion : The velocity and pressure is apparently to much for the hard cast lead in the 460 S&W and I for one will not use these bullets in ether weapon because of the leading. What others do is there decision and ok as long as they know what will happen to their firearm. The danger lies in the pressure that increases when a barrel is leaded if you shoot a jacketed bullet.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure many that use the hard cast bullet will disagree with my findings and that's ok to because I wanted to use the hard cast and bought 3 boxes for the 460 and 1 box for the 454 thinking they would be great for bear and hogs, But with the leading issue and almost a 1000 ft/lbs less energy that the 300 grain loads, the choice is simple to me.</p><p></p><p>We use to add more Zink to our lead cast bullets but still found that they leaded if pushed to fast and just didn't work in Magnum pistols that could push them over 800 ft/sec. I had though bullet makers had figured out how to keep the hard cast from leading a barrel and they may have improved it but not enough for the 460 S&W or the 454 Casull.</p><p></p><p>Just my experiences with them.</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 1983529, member: 2736"] Another Update on the 460 S&W rifle. I read a lot about the hard cast bullets and was dying to try them because they were touted to be the best bear load. I set up the recoil device and the chronograph to get plenty of data. I poster the velocities and energies earlier but will re post them for those that didn't see the test. After testing the 395 grain hard cast, I was a little disappointed in their performance compared to other loads. 200 grain Hornady factory = 2999 ft/sec Average (In the rifle) with 3995 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. 300 grain XTP mag = 2492 ft/sec Average with 4137 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. 325 grain XTP mag = 2355 ft/sec Average with 4003 ft/lbs of Muzzle energy. 395 grain Corbon hard cast = 1900 ft/sec Average with 3167 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. Velocity and energy was below all other loads and I assumed it was because of the lead bullets. After getting the rifle home and using the bore scope with it just dry patched. I saw leading and proceeded to remove it. It was very stubborn and I ended up soaking the bore over night in Boretech Eliminator and continued the next morning. after getting the lead our I went back and looked at my XVR pistol with the bore scope and found lead in it from shooting the hard cast bullets. Conclusion : The velocity and pressure is apparently to much for the hard cast lead in the 460 S&W and I for one will not use these bullets in ether weapon because of the leading. What others do is there decision and ok as long as they know what will happen to their firearm. The danger lies in the pressure that increases when a barrel is leaded if you shoot a jacketed bullet. I'm sure many that use the hard cast bullet will disagree with my findings and that's ok to because I wanted to use the hard cast and bought 3 boxes for the 460 and 1 box for the 454 thinking they would be great for bear and hogs, But with the leading issue and almost a 1000 ft/lbs less energy that the 300 grain loads, the choice is simple to me. We use to add more Zink to our lead cast bullets but still found that they leaded if pushed to fast and just didn't work in Magnum pistols that could push them over 800 ft/sec. I had though bullet makers had figured out how to keep the hard cast from leading a barrel and they may have improved it but not enough for the 460 S&W or the 454 Casull. Just my experiences with them. J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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