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.458 high BC bullets ?
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<blockquote data-quote="RT2506" data-source="post: 945433" data-attributes="member: 10178"><p>.458 and high BC bullets do not exist. What you are talking about doing with a 460 W was done back in the 1870s with the Sharps rifles in calibers like 45-70 to 45-110.</p><p>500ish gr soft cast paper patched pointed bullet pushed with BLACK POWDER at 1100 to 1400 fps out to really long ranges, 1000 yards or so, can be really accurate and will expand some. A cast naked, non-paper patched, bullet also can be really accurate but needs to be a bit harder and will not expand as much as the soft paper patched. Expansion of bullet was not needed to kill a buff it was a 45 cal hole put clean through vitals that kills and these heavy bullets will penetrate a loooooooog ways. Properly loaded black powder loads will be much more accurate than smokeless powder in these cases. When shooting at long range with anything .458 you have to know EXACTLY your yardage or you will miss. It has a trajectory like a river rock. We are talking feet and yards of drop not inches so a typical scope does not have enough adjustment. I shoot a Sharps style rifle in 45-70 and use a vernier tang sight and with my cast 520gr bullet from my RCBS BP mold and a case full of FFG BP it will do a touch over 1100 fps. From cross sticks on a good day it will easily shoot MOA out to 1000 yards. From shot fired to impact you can time it with a calendar. I am talking fire the shot, eject the case, lean over and look through the spotting scope and see the bullet falling from about a 45* angle hit the 4 foot steel plate near the center. If you really want something to hunt with a long range I suggest you get you something in 30 to 338 cal. with a muzzle break if you are concerned about recoil. Add a good Nightforce scope and PRACTICE. Oh! I almost forgot. Move from CA so you don't have to put up with their non-sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RT2506, post: 945433, member: 10178"] .458 and high BC bullets do not exist. What you are talking about doing with a 460 W was done back in the 1870s with the Sharps rifles in calibers like 45-70 to 45-110. 500ish gr soft cast paper patched pointed bullet pushed with BLACK POWDER at 1100 to 1400 fps out to really long ranges, 1000 yards or so, can be really accurate and will expand some. A cast naked, non-paper patched, bullet also can be really accurate but needs to be a bit harder and will not expand as much as the soft paper patched. Expansion of bullet was not needed to kill a buff it was a 45 cal hole put clean through vitals that kills and these heavy bullets will penetrate a loooooooog ways. Properly loaded black powder loads will be much more accurate than smokeless powder in these cases. When shooting at long range with anything .458 you have to know EXACTLY your yardage or you will miss. It has a trajectory like a river rock. We are talking feet and yards of drop not inches so a typical scope does not have enough adjustment. I shoot a Sharps style rifle in 45-70 and use a vernier tang sight and with my cast 520gr bullet from my RCBS BP mold and a case full of FFG BP it will do a touch over 1100 fps. From cross sticks on a good day it will easily shoot MOA out to 1000 yards. From shot fired to impact you can time it with a calendar. I am talking fire the shot, eject the case, lean over and look through the spotting scope and see the bullet falling from about a 45* angle hit the 4 foot steel plate near the center. If you really want something to hunt with a long range I suggest you get you something in 30 to 338 cal. with a muzzle break if you are concerned about recoil. Add a good Nightforce scope and PRACTICE. Oh! I almost forgot. Move from CA so you don't have to put up with their non-sense. [/QUOTE]
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