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44spl/44mag vs. 45colt/454 casull?
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<blockquote data-quote="RT2506" data-source="post: 923997" data-attributes="member: 10178"><p>Upon some more thinking about it I would just go with a 44 mag. You can forget using 44 Spl in it. You can load the 44 mag case down to 44 Spl velocities with cast bullets. I have shot tons of 240 gr cast bullets with 7 grs Unique out of a 7 1/2" Black Hawk and Red Hawk. They run between 900 and 950 fps and were really accurate and manageable. Used to shoot 22 grs 2400 with Sierra 240 gr JHC and they would do 1400 fps was accurate and wicked on deer. </p><p>I sold both 44s to fund other interest, T/C Contender single shots. I picked up a Ruger black hawk 45 Colt 5 1/2" barrel a few years ago and it serves well as woods carry and deer stopper. 9 grs Unique with a 250 cast SWC will do 900 fps and 20 grs H110 around with Hornady 250 XTP does around 1100 fps. Never killed a deer much over 50 yards with either load but it gets the job done fine. So does a 45 ACP with a 200 gr cast SWC and 7 grs Unique under my 50 yards limitation I try to keep. Usually also use my Contender with 14" 30-30AI pushing a 125 Nosler ballistic tip 2670 fps for beyond 50 out to 200 yards or so for deer. </p><p>I have shot a number of 454s but never cared about owning one. To me it has about twice the felt recoil of a same style and weight 44 mag shooting 300 gr bullets. As old Elmer Keith used to say, "you have to learn how to let a heavy recoiling pistol recoil." It is impossible to hold one down and trying to will cause bone crushing feeling. Learning to keep your arms locked and take the recoil in your shoulders and back helps tame felt recoil. The 454 and 44 mag with full house loads are not something that I enjoy shooting 50 or so rounds at a time. The concussion makes my head hurt. You sure don't want to shoot them without good ear protection. I made the mistake of shooting one of my 44 mags out of a shooting house without my ear plugs once. Will not do that again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RT2506, post: 923997, member: 10178"] Upon some more thinking about it I would just go with a 44 mag. You can forget using 44 Spl in it. You can load the 44 mag case down to 44 Spl velocities with cast bullets. I have shot tons of 240 gr cast bullets with 7 grs Unique out of a 7 1/2" Black Hawk and Red Hawk. They run between 900 and 950 fps and were really accurate and manageable. Used to shoot 22 grs 2400 with Sierra 240 gr JHC and they would do 1400 fps was accurate and wicked on deer. I sold both 44s to fund other interest, T/C Contender single shots. I picked up a Ruger black hawk 45 Colt 5 1/2" barrel a few years ago and it serves well as woods carry and deer stopper. 9 grs Unique with a 250 cast SWC will do 900 fps and 20 grs H110 around with Hornady 250 XTP does around 1100 fps. Never killed a deer much over 50 yards with either load but it gets the job done fine. So does a 45 ACP with a 200 gr cast SWC and 7 grs Unique under my 50 yards limitation I try to keep. Usually also use my Contender with 14" 30-30AI pushing a 125 Nosler ballistic tip 2670 fps for beyond 50 out to 200 yards or so for deer. I have shot a number of 454s but never cared about owning one. To me it has about twice the felt recoil of a same style and weight 44 mag shooting 300 gr bullets. As old Elmer Keith used to say, "you have to learn how to let a heavy recoiling pistol recoil." It is impossible to hold one down and trying to will cause bone crushing feeling. Learning to keep your arms locked and take the recoil in your shoulders and back helps tame felt recoil. The 454 and 44 mag with full house loads are not something that I enjoy shooting 50 or so rounds at a time. The concussion makes my head hurt. You sure don't want to shoot them without good ear protection. I made the mistake of shooting one of my 44 mags out of a shooting house without my ear plugs once. Will not do that again. [/QUOTE]
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