4-16 or 6-24x50

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by SLRees, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. SLRees

    SLRees Member

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    I'm building a .308 for 1000yards. I have decided to use a vortex PST scope. I was wondering what the thoughts are for a 4-16x50 or the 6-24x50. With the bigger scope I would get 65 MOA in total elevation adjustment. The 4-16 has 75MOA total adjustment. I really like using the 2 piece Leupold base. Not sure if I want to use a 1 piece base with 20 MOA elevation. The round I will be building will have the 168 or 175gr Berger VLD match grade hunting bullet.gun) Any thoughts?
     
  2. Lrdchaos

    Lrdchaos Well-Known Member

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    I would go with the 6-24. You will lose a little low magnification but you will gain a bunch on the top end. If you are going out to 1000, a little more on the top probably wouldn't hurt. Is this a hunting rifle as well or just a bench gun? If is going to serve dual purpose 6x maybe to much for hunting close in.
     

  3. Outlaw6.0

    Outlaw6.0 Well-Known Member

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    Here's my .02 so take it with a grain of salt.

    I have the 4-16 PST on a 6.5 Creed'. It functions very well & seems to track correctly & the glass absolutely blows. If the glass is the same between the 2, go with the 4-16 as the 24x would be just about worthless. Check SnipersHide for reviews & articles about the PST, I hear the 6-24 has better glass (how that is possible is anyone's guess).

    For the money, they track well & repeatability in the short time I've had mine has been great. They seem to be durable I decent looking (except that wart on the ocular housing that operates the illumination).

    As to your base question. If you want an extra 20mins (you'll need it with your .308) you can run your 2pc bases with Burris zee rings & offset inserts OR just buy a 20moa picatinny 1pc base & be better off IMHO. I am not a fan of 2pc bases.


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  4. Panchik

    Panchik Well-Known Member

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    If it was used primarily for target shooting I would go with 6-24, if for hunting then with 4-16. Everything of course is IMO.
     
  5. Broz

    Broz Well-Known Member

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    Having used and set up several PST's my biggest gripe is the eye box on the 6~24 is very hard to get into on 24 X. So I am constantly cranking it down. Makes no difference where you mount the scope or what cheek weld it is simply a bugger to get in the eye box. We have shot 10X scopes to 1200 yards with good results. I think if you are going with a PST you will be happier with the 4~16.

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  6. bruce_ventura

    bruce_ventura Well-Known Member

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    I would vote for the 4-16x50. Both PST scopes exhibit tunneling at the low end of magnification. On the 6-24x50 the field of view stops growing below about 7X, as I recall. Glare is moderately high - the image contrast drops significantly above about 18X. Low contrast adds to the eye box problem that Jeff spoke about. These are not serious flaws for a target scope. Given the large number of quality scopes in this price range, I would consider other options for a hunting scope.
     
  7. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    Bruce - willing to offer some of those other cost-comparable options? I've been using Sightron SIII scopes because I don't want my scopes too heavy - weight wise. What other scopes have you compared to the PST line of scopes?
     
  8. Garycrow

    Garycrow Well-Known Member

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    Having never used a vortex I can't comment on the differences between the two, but I can say that if I'm regularly shooting at 1000 yds. I'd want something 20X and up on the top end. You're going to need a 20 MOA base or some way of getting the elevation for a 308 at 1000 yds. You're looking at around 30 MOA of elevation to get there from a 100 yd zero. If everything lines up perfectly you might get to 1000 yds with either one of those scopes, but you'll be right on the ragged edge.
     
  9. SLRees

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    I'm looking at keeping the price to $800-$1000. What other hunting/target scopes offer the same quality and options as vortex PST for that price.
     
  10. bruce_ventura

    bruce_ventura Well-Known Member

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    I have a few in mind. I'm at the SHOT show now. I may locate a few more, so I'll wait until tomorrow to answer.
     
  11. SLRees

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    That's great, thank you. Have a good time at the shot show
     
  12. Woody26

    Woody26 Well-Known Member

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    I have a pst 6x24 on my sendero 7 mag. I usually keep it around 20 to 22 power when shooting at 1000 yds. I've never had a problem with it. I think the extra magnification will come in handy.
     
  13. SLRees

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    Anyone compare the Zeiss Conquest scopes to the Vortex PST? There about the same price.
     
  14. Kurt

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    I run the vortex 6-24 hslr with xlr reticle, it is ffp on 6x reticle is a cross hair and works great for close in work and on 24 a little picky getting behind it but not bad. Generally I run on about 12-15 seems that's what I like and have shot to 1236 with a 6.5 creed. I use this gun for both comps and hunting and really have fallen in love with the xlr reticle as when time dictates no dialing I have everything I need in the reticle. No illumination on it so if you have to have that it is a deal breaker. 1/2 moa adjustments also nice for speed of dialing and not a problem for me till I can shoot the difference.